Pampered Princesses Entitled to be Waited On
grrrr
SO didn't have SD7 or SD5 for 2 months because BM stopped access in a fury after she lost at a hearing looking for more money. SO had a contempt hearing and got access restored. Right now they are in the middle of a 2 week summer holiday visitation with us.
4 years ago they were the most pampered princesses you could imagine. They ordered SO around and he did whatever they wanted. They'd order a meal, he'd make it, they'd refuse to eat it, he'd make another, they'd refuse and so on. I put a stop to that. We had problems but SO learned and he did take a firmer stand with them. They stopped walking all over him.
Until now. I guess SO is afraid to piss them off.
We're in a campervan now and have been since Friday. The little angels have me pulling my hair out. They've become so helpless, whiny and bossy! They woke up at 6:30 this morning and woke us up to say they are hungry. OK, they know where the cereal and milk are. There is a bowl of fruit right there on the counter. We're in a campervan, everything is easy to find and get for themselves so why don't they just get it?
SO told them to get a banana and we dozed off again. We were awakened again 10 minutes later, they wanted to know where their shoes are. Duh, they are where you took them off last night! I could see them from where we were. I looked down and SD5 had unwrapped 3 bananas and smeared them around, hadn't eaten any.
All weekend they've been back to being helpless and bossy. I've got to start with SO all over again to get back on track.
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I'm sorry but after not
I'm sorry but after not seeing their dad for 2 months they probably just want his attention and not to watch him sleep. You should have elbowed your SO and had him get up with his kids and tend to them.
eh? Sorry if I didn't explain
eh?
Sorry if I didn't explain properly.
We've had them 3 weekends and now we are on day 10 of a 2 week visit. They've been the centre of attention the entire time and have become completely helpless again.
Regardless, I disagree that somebody should have to get up and peel bananas or pour cheerios for 7 and 5 year olds. Our 3 year old has been doing that for herself for a year.
I could make a long list of
I could make a long list of things our 3 year old can do that neither SD5 nor SD7 can do. Amazingly, SO is usually the one that points these things out to ME and I always pretend to be surprised.
Haha! That is awesome. Same
Haha! That is awesome. Same thing with my nephew. He is turning four next month and is already far more advanced than my 12 year old skid! Yesterday, I picked up my nephew from school (in a full batman costume of course) and while I was buckling him into the car seat, I asked him how summer pre-school was that day and he gave me his dimpled grin and said, "talk to the hand, sistah-friend!" and gave me the hand! Then he burst out laughing and said, "I kidding, Auntie ---, sometimes I cwack myself up and laugh so hard" and then he shook his head in a perfect imitation of his mom and proceeded to mimic her pseudo-stern voice, pushed his sunglasses on his forehead just like my sis and gave himself a lecture complete with lots of theatrical sighs and forehead crinkles. He started laughing so hard he gave himself the hiccups! It was hilarious and completely adorable. The whole time I was beyond impressed and tickled with his sophisticated imitation of his mom, his verbal skills, and his advanced grasp of humor and silliness. He was clowning the entire time, totally for my benefit.
This makes a huge break from my 12 year old skid who has bucked teeth (thank you BM) and as a result has a bad lisp and is so hard to understand that most people ignore him and he hasn't bothered to try to communicate properly. That, and his low I.Q. make him exhausting to talk to and on top of not being able to speak clearly or make much sense, has an incredibly hard time understanding what anyone else says and acts like a puppy with ADD (he doesn't have ADD and works with a speech therapist and social counselor at school). He doesn't listen and then interrupts before you're done talking to tell you that he doesn't understand you. You have to speak extremely slowly and clearly with him and stick to extremely clear language. My first few jobs were working with young children (pre-school through first grade) and I am very experienced with kids that age, including special needs kids and I can confidently say that I use the same skills I needed with the pre-schoolers to talk to my SS12 and he's not much farther along verbally and socially than most of them. He takes everything literally and does not understand humor or sarcasm. The most simple of sentences need to be explained in painful detail to SS12 and even then it's unlikely that he really understands. I won't even go into SS6. A good example today is that five minutes after SS6 finished lunch, he requested help "going to the potty"** he asked, not once but TWICE, what we were going to have for lunch!!!!!
**(using the bathroom is not a problem unless he wants extra attention and then he reverts to a babbling two year old that loudly announces that he has to "make a poop." and then tries to leave the bathroom door open so that he can yell to H for every little thing that he should be doing for himself (such as wiping????!!!).
My nephew is sharp, funny, adorable, and extremely smart. He is fluent in sign language because he naturally "picked it up" from a deaf pre-schooler in his class. He is the only kid in his school that learned to sign and he just naturally did it on his own. On top of being really good verbally and picking up new things effortlessly, obviously following in his smart mama's footsteps, he is also amazing socially and picks up on everything that sails right over my skids heads. Best of all, he is warm, loving and sweet and I live for his sticky kisses, funny comments, mischievous, dimpled smiles and hilarious phone messages (he just figured out how to speed dial me on mom's iPhone and leaves long giggling messages until he gets caught). He is a ray of sunshine in my life and is very reassuring after being around my skids for any length of time.
I care about my skids, obviously, but being with them makes me feel like I am working in a special ed. class and it's exhausting and not how I want to feel in my own family. Most of the time I do fine and I hide my frustrations from the skids and vent them appropriately, but it is always a palpable relief and joy to be around my nephew and other normal children. My step-nieces were here this weekend and they are so adorable too. It's amazing to see them side by side with the skids because they are first cousins, but my skids are so obviously messed up and genetically stupid that it is painful to watch. Fortunately, they are treated with the same love and attention that the nieces get, but as usual, being around other kids makes them stand out as problem children even more than usual. My four year old niece was especially adorable and cracked me up. Her mom jokingly told her that once her squirt gun was empty, you couldn't refill it and she was devastated. She believed her mom, hook, line and sinker and it was unbelievable cute. She accepted that she had a "broken" water gun philosophically and went back outside to play. I caught up with her and told her that I had a secret. Her whole face lit up and I told her that her mom was just joking and that if she found her older cousins and asked nicely they would show her how to fill it up. She was soooooo happy. It was beyond cute!
Today we were driving along
Today we were driving along and they were at a table right behind us. SD7 was going through the alphabet and we realized that SD5 still doesn't know all her letters! DD3 can read simple sentences and can spell out plenty of 3 and 4 letter phonetic words. Time after time SD5 didn't even know what a letter was and DD3 was teaching her what the sounds of them were and what words use those letters.
I didn't say a word and SO pointed it out to me.
Those kinds of things happen all the time. It's not just that though. DD3 can dress herself, get her own breakfast, play a DVD...so many things the others can't do.
The most important difference though is that DD3 cares about other people and about animals. She's very sensitive. She cries when someone on TV cries and she notices if a stranger looks sad and it makes her sad too. SD7 and SD5 don't give a damn about anyone but themselves. Everything is always all about them. If they are asked to be quiet because someone in the house is ill and needs to sleep they look at you like you're speaking another language. They simply cannot comprehend that other people have feelings and needs and they have no compassion for animals. It really worries me. I don't think it's normal at all.
How pathetic that you make
How pathetic that you make fun of a special needs child! It is one thing when a kid is a pita and is truant, lazy, etc...but to make fun of a kid because of his disabilities? You have really apalled me. Your DH must be crazy to have you in his life making fun of his special needs child! Unbelievable! I thought the people using the word "retard" were bad, I thought the people who thought "bullying" is just a part of growing up were bad, but you have truly won the prize. You must be an atheist? I truly hope so, otherwise you are definitely the most hipocritical christian I have ever known.
The govt should definitely sterilize some women.
PS this is for StepMadre...
What are you talking about?
What are you talking about? She isn't 'special needs'. She's pampered and babied.
I, on the other hand have a special needs child. One who is now fully grown.
First of all, who is making
First of all, who is making fun of a special needs child? Not me. I post honestly on my experiences with the kids in my life, but I have never made fun of a kid with disabilities and never intend to.
My skids are both special needs kids and I take excellent care of them and am a damn good SM. I was diagnosed with Aspergers as a kid and so technically you could say that I was a special needs child as a kid. I have no problem with kids with mental disabilities and I find it laughable that anyone would suggest it as I am the last person who would make fun of someone for something that is entirely out of our control.
Children are complex and just because someone vents about skids with special needs does not mean that the child's disability is being mocked or even being given as the reason for the problem. My skids are high maintenance and exhausting to care for. The reason is not autism or any other disability, it is because they have been raised extremely poorly AND because they have massive personality flaws. I couldn't care less about their disabilities in relation to what I think of them. It takes a lot of extra effort and care to take care of them, but what I take issue with is not that, but who they are as people. SS12 has the potential to become a nice person, but SS6 has been described as "sociopathic" by a disturbingly large amount of people and creeps people out so badly that it is hard to find people who will babysit him. He can't be left alone with small children or pets because he has a history of hurting them. My cats spit and hiss at him (the only person they have ever acted that way towards. EVER) and my moms dog keeps up a continual growl if he is in the room. This is a therapy dog that spends all day with my mom in sessions with counseling clients! Oddly enough, all of BMs pets died the year H left her and SS12 once found SS6 feeding laundry detergent to BMs dog "to see what would happen." He is extremely manipulative and the only time I've ever seen him get upset is when something affects him.
The daily needs of my skids are exhausting and I would be completely fake if I pretended that everything was hunky dory just because they are children! Ridiculous! They could have three legs and a third eye and I wouldn't give a rat's ass. They are difficult because they have severe behavioral problems and mental issues. My husband loves his kids more than his life and he is the first one to sympathize with anyone who has to take care of them. He loves them to death, but that doesn't change the fact that they are difficult kids to take care of. The reason they are so exhausting is that along with all their inherent issues they aren't very nice kids. I have completely come to terms with this. I still haven't given up and I treat them exactly the way I would any other kids I am in charge of. I treat them as if they had all the potential in the world, which technically they do. I am realistic and know what they are likely to grow up like, but that doesn't mean I have thrown up my hands. I have made a huge difference with them. SS12 has actually become a nicer kid and seems to have changed on a deeper level, but I am very aware that SS6 only tows the line so that he won't get in trouble. He doesn't seem to have a conscious and never shows empathy, kindness or caring towards anyone. He can imitate it if he wants something, but he gets caught slipping in the act all the time and lies with no problem whatsoever. He doesn't care about right or wrong, or even seem to know the difference. He only cares about getting caught or getting in trouble.
I take joy and pride in my nephew who is adorable and one of the sweetest kids I have ever known, but I would love him just as much if he were disabled, it means no difference to me. Obviously, if he had a big physical disability it would take more effort to physically take care of him, but that's not something I would ever have a problem with. He was blessed genetically and is adorable, but much more importantly, he was raised with intense love and compassion and empathy were modeled to him from day one. He is extremely gentle and tries to rescue ants and worms from the sidewalk and looooves animals. To me, the most important feature a person can have is being a good person. SS12 is an okay person with potential to be a good person and I think SS6 is going to wind up in jail or worse. This has nothing to do with their disabilities and everything to do with what kind of people they are.
Like taking care of triplets, special needs kids take more time and energy and that alone can be enough to vent about. Any parent, bio or step will testify that SN kids are an extra challenge. If someone is posting about their skids or kids it helps to read carefully so that you can pick up on what someone is actually expressing rather than what you would like to think they are. Kids that require extra work are extra exhausting. Nobody will argue that. Take kids that require extra work and then throw in that one is a sociopath and the other selfish and high strung and you get a SM that needs to vent. Basically, do not criticize someone else's vent when you do not know the details of the situation or the people involved.
For herewegoagain: I would recommend leaving religion out of it as you are entering territory that many will find offensive. If being a "Christian" is the standard for compassionate behavior then I don't want to be one. During the Crusades babies were slaughtered and actually eaten in the name of Christianity. Assigning morality to one religion exclusively is idiotic and ignorant. I happen to be a Christian, but I know from experience that the majority of Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists etc.. that I have known have more compassion and "Christianity" in their little pinkies than your average Christian. Ignorant judgment seems to be the "Christian" standard and I see that it hasn't failed me yet again...
P.S. I am APPALLED by your spelling and grammar. Apalled is Appalled. Hipocritical is Hypocritical. Christian is capitalized. Get some basic education and step out of your glass house before you throw stones.
Ahh as I read it they hadn't
Ahh as I read it they hadn't seen there dad for 2 months. Of course they would want his attention. If he has been attentive to him for that long though and they are still overly attention starved then yes I can see how that would get frustrating. I don't think its the act of peeling banana's that they need....obviously they can physically do that....but if they are asking for these things as a means to get attention then its the attention that they need...that's all I was saying. Everyone parents differently but yes my SD4(5 in Aug) gets me up every morning and we get her breakfast together. She pours the cereal, I help her pour the milk, she gets her cup out, I get the juice etc. She could do it herself but she likes to have me with her because she just likes to do things with me. Little kids don't like to be dependent even when they can be, they still want their parents to parent them, that's what they take as a show of love. When your a part time parent like my H and I are they have limited options to get these "shows" so they are more needy. I can understand that and try to accommodate within reason. At least that's my experience. It will be soon enough that she wont want anything to be done for her and demand that she can do everything herself. I'm in no rush for that.
I 100% disagree with you. I
I 100% disagree with you.
I think it is vital for a child to learn independence. I believe that true happiness comes from relying on yourself to accomplish things and that this starts from age 2-3. I believe that children who learn to do things themselves are much, much happier and better off in the long run than the pampered darlings who are clingy and needy and have to have someone there with them all the time. Never mind that they learn to use emotional manipulation to get their way by this behaviour as well.
Having said that, I DO do things with my children - NEW things they can learn from but once they know how to do something they are on their own for the most part.
I studied Maria Montessori's methods and I believe she was right. Teaching children to be self-sufficient from a very early age is key to life long success and happiness.
Everyones parenting situation
Everyones parenting situation is different and maybe I would feel that working on her independence was more integral if I didnt have bigger fish to fry. Right now I'm just trying to get her to not be afraid of everything which is a whole other topic and issue. I am not familiar with Maria Montessori, is she an author?
Why is she afraid of
Why is she afraid of everything?
Maria Montessori
Her BM is afraid of
Her BM is afraid of everything so it being taught to SD4. Everything from BM's mouth is "Creepy, gross, omg scary, etc" so of course SD feels that way to. It for some reason frustrates me more then anything. She thinks rainbows are scary!!! If she cant explain it, its scary. If she doesnt understand it or know what it is, its scary. She hides behind my knees when we go the parade and free candy is falling from the sky. Shes afraid of it! SD13 cant even watch cartoons..CARTOONS!! without SD4 being afraid of something. It's ridiculous. I ask her...why is it scary? She has no clue she just insists that it is. BM said it was, or she just doesnt know what else to say so she reverts to "its scary". Drives me crazy! At BM's house if she says something is scary she doesnt have to do it or deal with it. At my house if she says its scary I ask her why and if she doesnt have a valid reason she does it or deals with it anyway. She goes into her BM's room everynight and claims bad dreams or something scared her yet, she does not do that here and I must say since my H and I are horror movie collectors you would think our house would be much more scary...but amazingly its not. LOL
Montessori is a method of
Montessori is a method of teaching that promotes that children should be independent thinkers and learners. We sent my BS15 for three years and when he transferred to kindergarten of all the children in the class the only two that could read attended Montessori pre-school. Expensive, but worth every penny. Now that kid is in all honors classes and has never had below a B in his life. I know his thinking process started with Montessori and I wouldn't do anything differently.
Read the teachings they are excellent.
The problem with this is that
The problem with this is that when you allow certain behavior due to a specific reason (such as not seeing dad for a while) you create a confusing situation for the kids. Behavior rules and requirements should be the same if you have your kids 100% of the time or only once a year. You do not let kids misbehave because you haven't seen them in a long time! If you follow that logic, you should be stricter with your kids on the weekends than right after school because you haven't seen them for a while, while they are at school. You can see how ridiculous this is! Kids that have two separate households need MORE stability not less and when you let things slide sometimes and not other times you just confuse the children and create dangerous precedents. They will learn that it's okay to act helpless to get attention just because they haven't seen their dad in a while?! How is that okay? Or helpful to them? Kids should be given plenty of attention, but they should also be taught to respect others and to clean up after themselves. On top of that, encouraging them to use passive tactics to get attention is inappropriate. Interrupting dad and sms sleep repeatedly to get attention is rude and disrespectful. As far as I"m concerned, the only day I let things slide at all is Christmas, and even then I have standards and expect basic behavior requirements to be met.
If the skids need more attention that is something that should be addressed separately. Letting rudeness slide is not okay and teaching your kids that it's okay to misbehave and be disrespectful and thoughtless at certain times but not others will set you firmly off on an extremely slippery slope that will lead to major behavioral problems later. I don't let my skids act like that EVER. I don't care if they've spent two weeks with us or haven't seen us in two weeks, I have standards and they never slip. I am doing my skids a favor by expecting the minimum basic good behavior that I do. I don't confuse them and they always know what H and I expect from them. No confusion, WAY less hassle.
My advice in this situation is to discuss this with your H so you are both on the same page and then sit the skids down and give them an outline of exactly what behavior you expect from them in the mornings before you and your H get up. They need to know that they can come get you in an emergency (and clarify exactly what an emergency is: choking, fire, someone gets hurt, bad guy with a gun etc...) but that until a certain time (pre-set by you and H and visible to the skids on a clock) you are not to be disturbed. Have specific, pre-set consequences for interrupting you and H before the set time if the interruption is not paired with an actual emergency. We have to do this too when we have the skids on camping trips or anytime their regular schedule is different. Agree to rules, set them, explain to the skids and then ENFORCE them. You have to be consistent and stick to them without exceptions or it won't work, but if you are firm, fair and consistent your skids will eventually fall in line (and learn a little about thoughtfulness and respect).
As far as the little one goes (the five year old), you should really know by that age not to make a mess like that and waste food. I would expect that out of a two year old, not a five year old! When I was growing up, the younger kids who might potentially be making a mess were kept somewhat in check by the older kids. By the time I was 7, I never would have stood back and let my little sisters smear bananas everywhere and I definitely wouldn't have gotten away with that. When my mom was gone, the next oldest automatically took over and kept an eye on the littler ones. My mom could trust us and other than the time we made "everything" pudding using every single food item we could find, we never made a mess just because her back was turned. If my mom woke up on a weekend and found that we had made random messes or had failed to get ourselves cereal, she would have been shocked and we would have been in huge trouble.
These kids are acting out by being helpless and what they are acting like is brats! You don't respond to that by giving in and letting them know that their tactics for getting attention are okay or appropriate. It's basic behaviorism. They need to learn appropriate boundaries and the only way that happens is if you set boundaries and stick to them. I would feel the same if I was the SM in this position and agree that this situation is not normal or appropriate!
I wasn't saying in any way,
I wasn't saying in any way, or at least didn't mean to imply that I felt the actions of the SK's were ok....I was just saying that they were probably doing it because they desired some attention. I was under the impression that they hadn't seem there father in some time but after further discussion with the OP I learned otherwise. If they were acting out after missing him and needed to be corrected I was suggesting that she should make him get up and deal with it. I am lucky to have relatively well behaved SK's and if my SD4 were to do something like that (smear banana's) she would not get away with it and there would be consequences. My SD13 would be the first to correct her also, shes very good for that.
You are completely right
You are completely right StepMadre. I'm lucky that SO has been through this before, he did correct it before (long, painful process) and he knows that they are happier and better behaved when he doesn't wait on them hand and foot. He's disappointed in himself right now for letting things go backward. I hope he has to resolve to fix it.
They are perfectly capable of
They are perfectly capable of getting their own breakfast. They had been doing it themselves at our house (not at BMs) for the last year. The problem was that they have had too much attention since access started and they acquired a sense of entitlement as a result, believing that they shouldn't have to do anything for themselves because daddy is their slave.
Yes! This is the difference
Yes! This is the difference between parenting and enabling. Parenting is all about raising kids that are happy, healthy, confident and able to thrive in the real world as adults. Misguided efforts to "parent" kids can actually hurt them in the long run. When you parent well, you give your (s)kids love, affection and time, but also teach them respect, self sufficiency, and thoughtfulness. If these girls need more attention acting like helpless babies is not a healthy way to ask for it. The girls can either get the cereal out and eat breakfast by themselves or they can't, it's not a question of "parenting." Since they can get themselves food and have a history of being able to do so, there is no reason why that should change just because they are camping! Sure, they want attention, all kids do. That does not mean it is appropriate for them to demand attention or to passive aggressively try to get it by "needing help" with things they can do on their own. For girls that are obviously well loved and well taken care of, what does it teach if you allow them to be rude and needy? It teaches thoughtlessness. If you allow your children to wake you up so that you can rub their backs and pour their cereal and "parent" them, you are teaching them to be incredibly selfish and thoughtless. My mom put up with us waking her up early twice a year-our birthday and Christmas. She was a hard working single mom for a lot of my childhood and she showed me she loved me by working hard and putting food on the table, not by letting me disturb her sleep and making her find my shoes and pour me cereal! My little sister and I were early risers when we were little and if we woke up before my mom, we would get ourselves breakfast and go watch cartoons until she woke up. On weekends when she occasionally slept in, we were extra quiet and completely left her alone because she taught us to think about other people and have consideration.
It may seem "nicer" to let them interrupt and drag the adults out of bed, but it isn't and doesn't teach anything other than it's okay to disturb other people if you need or want something. In addition, kids will push and test boundaries and some parents mistakenly give in because they want to make their kids happy, but what they don't realize is that the kids are actually testing boundaries because they WANT boundaries and don't know what they are. Kids who know that dad and SM stay in bed until ten when on vacation/camping and that they can get their breakfast like they normally do, are learning appropriate boundaries. Like puppies, kids need lots of attention and care, but does that mean that you get up at 3am and throw a frisbee in the dark because your puppy wants you to? NO! You teach the puppy that nighttime is for sleeping and that frisbee throwing happens during the day at specific times. Kids and puppies like clear boundaries because it makes them feel safe. Even when they grumble about following the rules, they still want you to be the adult and set the limits. In the kids mind, If the adult isn't in control, who is?
Obviously, the exception is emergencies, but in general good parents set clear boundaries, they don't act like doormats and servants. It's not just for the parents well being either, kids need firm and appropriate boundaries for their current peace of mind and for their future as human beings in society.
That's basically what i've
That's basically what i've been doing. Today I have to spend the day with them though. I'm working on my frame of mind before it gets started.
I'm sorry but children not
I'm sorry but children not even yet in the double digits age wise dont need to learn to be adults yet, I am perfectly happy with them being kids. No rush, they grow fast enough. My sd4 is much more defendant with me then she is with her BM (who still wipes her for gods sake) so I'm not saying she should be babied, I just enjoy doing things with and for her. I do agree with you however that since the mess was made that the DH should clean it up. That's where the elbowing and telling him to get up and deal with it would come in.
i could not imagine being
i could not imagine being cooped up in a campervan with skids ~ just think 10 days down 4 to go....
what did you do about the banana incident? it would have taken everything i have to not rub her nose in it and make her lick it up!
good luck on the reconditioning of dh to be a good parent and not a guilty daddy.
Oh, I gave SO a chance to say
Oh, I gave SO a chance to say something and he didn't so the conversation went like this:
PA: SD5, Why did you open so many bananas?
SD5: I didn't do that. DD3 did it.
PA: SD5, I know DD3 didn't do it. She's still in bed asleep. It was you who asked for bananas this morning.
SD5: I ate the one I opened.
PA: Where is the peel from the one you ate?
SD5: I put it in the bin?
PA: The bin is empty. It's right here. I emptied it last night.
SD5: I took it outside to the bin.
PA: You are lying again. You have to stop lying and blaming DD3 all the time.
SO: (in very gentle voice) Now SD5, I've had to tell you 20 times a day not to lie and blame DD3 for things you did. Please stop doing it.
At that point I gave up.
I did have a talk with SO later and he admits the problem is rearing it's ugly head again.
I believe he will fix it. I just hate that we took such giant steps backward. I thought all this was behind us.
Well I hope at least he
Well I hope at least he cleaned up the banana mess or made her do it!
princess isn't getting
princess isn't getting ANYTHING special from me until she loses that 'I'm entitled to whatever I want and YOU have to give it to me' attitude.
Tomorrow I'm taking them for the day. I had planned on doing lots of fun things but I've scaled it back now. My heart just isn't in it anymore.
They've done the opposite of what I've said all day long and given me that 'F you' look every time they've done it.
As usual BlendedFam weighs in
As usual BlendedFam weighs in to (purposely?) get things wrong and make an issue of nothing while ignoring the gist of the whole blog.
The 3, nearly 4 year old was bossy and pampered back then. The younger one followed suit at the first opportunity.
I'm sure you are the only person who didn't get that (unless shootingstars or lifeisshort comes along to back you up as usual) but then you didn't get it on purpose, as usual.
Don't worry, to the rest of
Don't worry, to the rest of us reading this thread it's obvious what is going on! I wouldn't waste energy bothering with someone who is obviously just trying to bait and upset you.
If it helps, I totally sympathize and understand!
absolutely: "I wouldn't waste
absolutely:
"I wouldn't waste energy bothering with someone who is obviously just trying to bait and upset you."
if you start to ignore their nasty comments about how "it's always the SM's fault/problem" and not entertain them they will leave you alone and find new prey...
It takes a truly STUPID
It takes a truly STUPID person to make such detailed and opinionated comments on a blog that they clearly haven't even bothered to read.
Obviously you didn't read it
Obviously you didn't read it or you wouldn't have said so many things that are totally wrong and that have been already discussed.
Either you didn't read it or you are unable to comprehend what you read.
Sorry, shooting, ALL four
Sorry, shooting, ALL four year olds are NOT bossy by default....
So if this behavior is
So if this behavior is undesirable (which to most people it would be, and as an adult, this would definitely not work to her favor), it needs to be corrected, not excused.
And yes, the wording was better the second time around.
OMG ~~ SMT2, how did you
OMG ~~ SMT2, how did you manage this:
"Thank God, though they no longer want to visit"
i never really scold or give skids a reason to blame me for not visiting either.... however, i don't go out of my way to make the visit a day at the amusement park anymore..... sd seems to be coming a little less, but ss is shoved so far up dhs ass it's nuts!
I did the same thing with the
I did the same thing with the milk. She was able to pour milk and juice without a spill before she was 2.
That is such a good idea!!!!
That is such a good idea!!!! I am totally going to do this because I have a lot of kids in and out of my house and most of them are under the age of four, yet all want to pour their milk themselves! I think I will do this for juice too. Maybe this will be the last time I crouch on my knees scrubbing purple kool aid out of the plastic grooves of my vegetable crisper!
Pouring is one of the
Pouring is one of the Montessori exercises. Just get 2 small jugs and let them practice pouring water between them.
First you do it to show them, silently. Always have them on your non-dominant side, ie, if you are right handed have them seated on your left. Always pour right to left - do everything you can right to left in fact, it helps prepare them for reading.
Also, you can get 2 bowls and a spoon, fill one bowl with small beans or rice (smaller things as they get better) and let them spoon from one to the other.
Always make sure they clean up any spills they make after.
How much bonding time do they
How much bonding time do they need? They've been the centre of attention non-stop since access started and they are abusing it now.
BTW, they do help making dinner. Dinner is family time. Breakfast is sometimes but not always. There is nothing wrong with kids learning to do some things for themselves.
Ah, don't start me on kids
Ah, don't start me on kids and their difference.
My kids learnt to eat with a knife and fork. Spoons are for dessert or soup.
SSs decide to eat mashed potato with with a spoon, wipe said spoon on a napkin at the side of their plate and repeat the filthy process. I have made it clear for the past 6 yrs this is unacceptable in the civilised world. Yet they still do it. Did I mention the oldest (who seldom visits if ever) is 19 and his brother has started the same crap again at 17?
Not a big deal? Why do I make a fuss? Because in most places (including my family in New Zealand and Australia) only babies eat with a spoon. If I showed up there with a couple of quasi-adult wannabes eating with teaspoons and wiping the contents on a napkin, my father would cough his teeth out!
My kids can use public transport or wait for a ride or work out that walking from A to B will not kill them and they are (check) safe. Hell the have flown themselves around the world. My s/sons? Whine for a ride all.the.time. It has taken me 6 yrs for DH to be in a place where he doesn't jump and run for his sons. YSS was supposed to be with us this weekend or at least on Saturday. HE changed his mind and failed to call us and let us know. Manners? Table Etiquette? Brains to work something out yourself and fix it? Well apparently if it doesn't affect them they don't see the problem. Which is one of the reasons Dh divorced their mother. She didn't care as long as she wasn't inconvenienced.
Grrr!
We did the same. My kids all
We did the same. My kids all learned to eat with a fork and knife and to drink from glasses made of glass and ceramic cups. No plastic, no sippee cups with lids.
By 2 they were masters at eating and drinking - as well as any adult.
"By 2 they were masters at
"By 2 they were masters at eating and drinking - as well as any adult."
Do you think I'm going to really believe that for 2 seconds? At TWO YEARS OLD they could eat and drink as well as any adult? That's laughable!!! I'm a BM too and have raised a great young man but there is no way he could eat like an adult when he was TWO. Ha!!
That's exactly what I was
That's exactly what I was picturing! That is just ridiculous!!!
Holly cow! I agree with
Holly cow! I agree with BlendedFam for once! It is one thing to teach kids independence and how to do things and another to be lazy parents who use teaching independence as an excuse. Yes, a 5 & 7 yr old should be able to get up and grab something to eat, but after not seeing them 2mos that's a bit ridiculous. I assume you never cook for your husband or he doesn't do it for you either...you are both adults.
Kids should be kids...you do teach them responsibility, but that doesn't mean you can't do anything for them...they will have plenty of time to be adults.
Well, herewegoagain, I see
Well, herewegoagain, I see where you got your unsername. I take it that it represents your inability to READ, thereby making bloggers repeat themselves 3 or 4 times.
So, just for you, Here We Go Again,
He didn't see them for 2 months between March and May. He saw them EOW end of May and June. We are now on day 11 of a 14 day stay. are taking advantage of that.
They have had 24x7 attention since access restarted and they
Asking them to prepare Cordon
Asking them to prepare Cordon Bleu breakfasts and then screaming at them ala Best Chef would be too much. Asking them to pour cold cereal into a bowl with milk is perfectly appropriate. For the young one, if at five years old, she can't manage cereal on her own (something my sisters and I did at the age of about three) then one of her older siblings can help her.
I find it hilarious that anyone would suggest that kids in a camper van with their dad on vacation would need so much attention that they have to actually intrude on their dad's sleep! Aren't they getting enough of him during the day? If his contact to them were limited to a daily polite speakerphone message from one wing of the mansion to another, then I could understand why they would be clingy and attention seeking, but they are in a camper for God's sake! Peace, quiet and privacy go out the window when you go on vacation with kids and I don't think a good night's sleep is too much to ask!
Just had to say, at 14 years
Just had to say, at 14 years old, my stepsons can't pour cereal, prepare their own breakfast. Well they think they can but end result is spilled cereal everywhere, box left wide open, milk left out (seriously) or milk all used up and put back empty(seriously). Religiously DH buys premade (frozen) pancakes, breakfast sandwiches, frenchtoast and they still ask him (never me) to make it & he does & cuts it up into piece for them after he buttered & syruped it. On the rare occasion they put the expensive junk in the microwave theirself they leave it in there b.c. they run off to play and forget about it. They will never be self sufficient but DH feels useful & needed coddling them.
Anyway, had the skids all day
Anyway, had the skids all day today and we had a great time.
They know better than to pull any of that crap with me when daddy's not around - they didn't even try. Not even a hint of it.
Their mother though - that's another story.
She's allowed one phone call every second day at 10:00 AM. This is by court order because in the past she called 15 times a day and made them cry by telling them how she missed them, how unhappy she was and making them feel they were betraying her if they had fun plus a lot of other despicable stuff. Anyway, it's court ordered at 10:00 and she can't discuss anyone's emotions - also by court order.
A little more history - last week she asked, through her lawyer, if she could change the time of the calls to 7:00 PM. We do not agree with this because she always tries to upset them and if it's in the evening it's harder to get them out of it. That's why it was argued in court and the judge set the time at 10:00 AM.
So, since she would normally call SO's phone to talk to them and he was unavailable I called her number from my phone at 5 minutes to 10. She didn't answer. I called again at 10. No answer. I called again at 10:10 and left a voice mail saying I tried to call and I put both the skids on to tell her hi and leave a message.
At 11:00 we went on a very noisy tour that lasted 2 hours and my phone was put away. About 15 minutes into the tour I - like an idiot - thought 'maybe I should try for the sake of the kids to reach out to her for the 1000th time. Maybe this time she'll react positively to it instead of stabbing me in the back like she usually does' so I took a photo of the skids wearing these cute hats that you get on the tour. They were laughing and obviously happy. I texted the photo to her.
After the tour I checked and she had left a voice mail at 11:30 claiming that she had talked to SO and told him she was in a meeting at 10 and he told her she could call 'later' at her convenience. I knew this was a lie because 1. He was unavailable by phone 2. He would NEVER have told her that and 3. She lies about everything.
Still I thought I'd try to be nice and at 1:30 as we were entering a restaurant for lunch I tried to call her again. No answer.
We had lunch. No return call from her.
We went to the cinema. During the film she tried to call. I didn't answer. She didn't leave a voicemail.
After the film we went to a shop on our way back out of town. At 7:00 while in the shop I heard my phone. By the time I dug it out and tried to answer she had hung up. I got all 3 kids together and went outside the shop to call her back - ONLY because all day I had this stupid idea that I'd be the better person and try to be nice to her even though she's NEVER nice to us. As I was dialing her number a text came through. It was from her. It read:
"If you don't call me by 7:30 I will have no choice but to call the police. A voice mail is not a conversation."
Do I need to tell you that I did NOT continue dialing her number?
Last year at this very same time of year she pulled the same crap. She called the police and had them come over at 10:00 PM to do a 'welfare check' of the children. We had to drag them out of bed to talk to the police. After we explained to them that she had done it because she didn't call at the regular time and tried to call later but we wouldn't take the call they were pissed at HER for wasting their time.
So, I texted her back and told her 'Report away, I tried to call you several times and you didn't answer. I'm sure the police will laugh at you.'. Well, the dumbass DID call the police! I got a call from them at 8:00. The guy said 'Look, I told her this has nothing to do with me and I know she's in the wrong but I need to call you just so I can write down that I did.' The situation was explained and the policeman said he'd do the same if it was him.
Not ONCE did she ask how the kids are. It isn't about the kids at all - it's about her sick need to control.
Luckily she doesn't make them
Luckily she doesn't make them cry anymore. They've started to figure her out. SD7 doesn't even want to talk to her when she calls. She makes faces and is real pissy about it. A couple of times she's made comments like 'Why does she have to bother me all the time?'. Then she tries to get off the phone and BM keeps her on until SD7 finally lies to her to get off.
SD5 isn't quite there yet and may never be, she's babied a lot more than SD7.
She's taken a new tactic with SD7 lately. She doesn't go as heavy on the 'Oh poor me, sitting here miserable because you are gone and you are just having a good time not even missing me.' as she used to. Now it's more 'I'm going to [fill in blank with some favourite place that SD7 LOVES going to]. Why don't you ask daddy if I can pick you up and bring you with me?'
Just as I suspected - she's
Just as I suspected - she's claiming that she was never called and that her calls weren't answered.
Does this dumb broad not realize that there are records of all these calls? I left a voicemail!