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Little Jo's picture

Darkness is out of her mind and I'm offically done. Like we didn't have enough drama 2 weeks ago with the letter I wrote and the aftermath. Last night was the topper. You're not going to believe this.

Yesterday, DK e-mails BF's sister to complain. Sis blasted her. Dk calls here last night on a complete tiraid. It began with 'How often do you talk to your sister & Mother. (like it's any of her F$#king business). Than she starts going off about the child support. They srceamed over that for awhile. Next up was that we are both Alcoholics and need God & help.

Then came the f#@king kicker. DK blurts out "oh, so why was Joann at the Thurway Beverage center today at 2:30". Our jaws dropped. How the hell did she know where I was. She lives 40 minutes away from us. Then she says " yeah, I know things, she spent $2.09 there." WHAT THE F#$K IS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!!!!
I WAS SPEACHLESS.

It took BF a few minutes before the light bulb went off. DK's job has something to do with the credit card company that New York State Child Support uses. She had someone look up my personal information. I was flipping out.

BF tells her she & that person could be fired. Next thing ya know, I get a threatening E-mail from SD16 if I get her Mother fired.

I tell you all as my witnesses. I'm done. I will no longer play nice. I don't give a shit about who molested who. DK is a master manipulator who has an answer for everything. I will no longer allow this woman and these kids to bash the shit out of BF & I.

BF had to work a 12 hour day today. When he gets home we are making a new plan. I will hold him by his balls and get through to him, that I will no longer allow any communication with that Bitch unless it's short and only about the kids.

Thank you for listening to me rant.

Comments

loonybonusmom's picture

dk has truly lost it, and by going into your personal info, it is time I think to give a little back, maybe even if it is bf that lets her know, although myself I would rather do it myself...it is time she knows that you KNOW the truth. If she can find out about you spending two bucks...and she is willing to go this far....? Let her know what you know, and that you are willing to go the distance if she continues to invade your privacy!! I doubt she would be so eager to go off like this and it "should" give her a wake up call on reality. Have you guys even had visits with these kids? Enough is enough, and it is time she knows she can't mess with you!! My question would be what else has she found out besides the two dollar purchase???? I am amazed she comes down on you all for drinking some beer when there are much larger issues in her own household. Good Luck, wish I could say it is a relief to hear from ya again, but by the sounds of it....you haven't had any relief..which is what I was hoping for when I didn't see ya on here....with love your friend

loonybonusmom's picture

hey Jo...just let your bf know that you have a whole crew of sidekicks ready willing and able to take the bitch down...if I wasn't here in Canuck land...I would offer to make the needed calls myself for you!!!!!!!!!!!! I am sure we can find someone here close enough to get the job done "anomy" like!!

Little Jo's picture

Loony, I see were you are coming from. But I don't know if it would just backfire into a complete a even bigger mess.
The only girl we have seen in months, was this past weekend when SD9 came over for 2 nights. We had a good visit.

Fearless, what do you mean. I'ld like to throw down a f$#king brick on her head, but that's illegal. Please give me some details on what you are thinking.

Love you both too

"I'll be alright in a year or two after I calm down". Detective Donahue - Soap

loonybonusmom's picture

is for the sd9 Jo, what has she been living with, i am so happy to here the visit went well, but geeze she is a young girl living in crappy conditions, and what is next? My question is 1. does she come home to you guys like nothing is going on???? 2. does your bf truly believe she is safe living there all things considered?? That is my only reason for suggesting the dk find out that you know the family history is that she may just back off of interfering with your personal business. I wouldn't wish to bring this type of history up just for revenge...BUT considering sd is only 9, and her safety, and sanity maybe at risk, I wouldn't be able to sit still. As I said, I am here for whatever you need...even if I am far far away

Little Jo's picture

I hear you loud & clear. But I feel like my hands are tied right now. We know SD9 is not in a great situation. Or normal for that matter. But that household is so irrational & dysfunctional, I honestly don't know what would happen. Plus they all protect DK. Dk said last night the CPS loves her and that she is getting all sorts of help now. (Hold on, I need to stick my finger down my throat)

If I make any move right now, it's going to be blown into spite. I almost feel like I have to get my own house in order. I have to get BF to stop letting her spread her horseshit on us.

still_looking's picture

IF she did wrong and pulled your personal data up using her JOB's software to gather information about you, GET HER and GET HER NOW! Do not back off on that one, lose her job, go to jail, what difference does it make, she did wrong! Thanks SD for sending me the email about your mothers wrong doing, but I can handle this, what was suppose to be accomplished by SD's email again? Was she gonna spank you if her mommie lost her job? Whatever....I am so with you, don't you dare pull back and approve her wrongness, and U are not making a mountain out of a molehill, BM was so sure of herself, she called you all to tell you this, so since she wants to be Inspector Gadget, Send her to OZ!

"Be there for the joy. Be there for the tears. Be there for each other."
(Step-Mom the Movie 1998)

laughterandtears's picture

Did you know that everytime someone accesses your accounts (credit, cards, Social #, ECT..) that the computer they accessed it from has it's own special signature? Not only that but usually the person who did it has a number assigned to them and that number automatically is stamped on the records?

At the very least, you should be able to get and restraining order on her as what she is doing is considered stalking. But I would act fast before all the info you need is buried so deep that it would take forever to find it.

That's just creepy, sweetie. It sounds to me like she is hung up on you. Do you know if she's bi?;-)
IF IT WAS EASY, EVERYONE WOULD DO IT.

loonybonusmom's picture

my ass Jo, if they knew the family history the only help the dk would get is a swift kick out to the shrinks for everyone in the household. It is a hard situation Jo, but at this point you need to make sure she doesn't mess with your life any further at all costs, which I believe in the end will be better for all these kids. I can't believe the only info she has invaded is a two dollar purchase.

Little Jo's picture

All I have to do is check with the card company. They should have records of all inquires into my account.
This sounds stupid by the hard part is deciding to actually do it. I admit, I'm not very brave. I don't want my life to turn into a lifetime movie. I'm scared.

Yes, I am mortified that she had that kind of access.

still_looking's picture

Ok according to Jo, DH stated to BM that she could be fired, so I am assuming, there was some sort of conversation in regards to that, surely she just didn't say "yes and she charged $2.09" and DH said "you could be fired for that" That doesn't flow, so either DH suggested that she used her job to gather this information or she told him what she did, irregardless, what was her response? Did she DENY, was she elusive, did she say NO WAY! etc
The second part that is important is JO revcd an email from SD, now SD said what? Outside of don't you get my mommie fired, she said what? Did she say anything in regards to how mommie got the info?
The third part that is of utmost importance, I am once again assuming JO, that she accessed your credit/debit card, correct, not your actual social security number? So by accessing someones debit/credit number you do not leave a inquiry like you do with accessing a social BUT once again JO I am also assuming you should have no reason to be IN her job's database, correct? You do not pay child support and would have no reason for BM or anyone of her buddy co-workers to pull your information. So therefore, you write a very formal and NON hostile letter to her employer, you cc her immediate supervisor, Human Resources, and if they are a real big company their legal department, (most of which can be found on their company website and if not you call and get it) you state who you are, and that you feel your personal information has been breached by a representative of their company. You give facts only, not what you think and no emotion, companies don't like to get involved in CAT FIGHTS, I know this is not one but that is how it will look if you bring emotion into it. In your letter, you will state that on such and such date, you have firm information that an employee of their company utilized your personal information by using their computer software. That this is of huge concern to you and that if anything negative occurs to your financial security due to negligence on their part, you will seek legal retribution immediately. What does that statement say to a Chief Financial Officer of a company? They know what the verbage means, You know it, SUE SUE SUE! No company with all of the publicity that Identity Theft is receiving wants to be involved in a law suit.
They will rectify the problem immediately. NO computer can remove all traces of transactions, it doesn't exist ask any IT person (my hubby has training in that field, you cannot remove your IP address it's the fingerprint to your computer!) So Jo will ask that this particular employee's workstation be inventoried and investigated for any data pertaining to her. They will obviously question BM, and HEY even if they FIND absolutley nothing, wouldn't you just love to be a fly on the wall at that meeting with BM and Employer? In the letter also, JO will state she needs to hear the status and results of her inquiry by such and such date otherwise they can speak to her attorney.
Close out the letter and wait!
IF the employer finds info on BM computer, they will terminate her and they will let you know this, it's at that point with what they found you contact your local authorities and prosecute. IF they don't find anything on their system, then she obviously used something else, and Jo will need to find out, what does she have that is tracking your debit/credit transactions, does she know who you bank with, is it possible she has figured out your password?, if she didn't use her job, she has something.
I hope that answers your question Feerless, my identity theft case against BM involving me, has been going on now for 10 months, and the Feds are just about ready to arrest her, they had to wait until she submitted over $50,000.00 in transactions and debts in my name before thy could turn her case into a Federal Racketeering case (she is at 46,000.00)! Ironically, I have not been able to say anything to her because they wanted her to keep using my information, unbeknowest to BM the Social Security Administration changed my social security number and the state changed my drivers license number so her paper trail of deceit is long, and I will have my day in court and victory, because unlike the state The FEDS don't play and definately not with BANKS, remember they are FDIC secured.

"Be there for the joy. Be there for the tears. Be there for each other."
(Step-Mom the Movie 1998)

Little Jo's picture

When BF said you got her information from work. DK swore she does not have access to New York State records. This company has other office in other states. BF didn't let up. She admitted that someone else gave her my information. Well, I'm pretty f$#king sure that some random employee from a different state didn't just happened to call her. She asked someone to look into my child support payment usage.

I spoke with DK my self last night. She admitted it was wrong to get that info on me and she just had a bad day and was curious. I wanted to go off on her, but I didn't. I did lie and told her I contacted the police and I wasn't what was going to happen. Then she just started with her bullshit. So, I told her I had to go.

As far as SD16 e-mail to me, it said "if Mother gets fired because are flipping out on some hotline, do know that I will never talk to you again, and could possibly do something irrational to you and your life".

Anne 8102's picture

Not only did Mom break the law, Jo, so did SD16 when she used email to communicate a threat to you. You have to handle this in whatever way you feel most comfortable, but I don't think you should let it go.

If you didn't suffer any financial damages, as far as what the mother did, then probably no DA will prosecute her. But you should, if you haven't already, immediately notify the credit card company and all three credit bureaus that you're a fraud/identity theft victim. They can put a block on all your credit info such that you will be asked for permission before they release any info to anyone making an inquiry about you. You can also get a free copy of all three credit reports at this time and those will show you who is making inquiries.

As for the skids, Jo, I don't know what you should do. I know teenagers can be very melodramatic, but I don't like the tone of that email. That's a threat. All kids swear they will never speak to their parents again, but NOT ALL of them threaten to "do something irrational to you and your life." I think you have to take that seriously. I understand Dad not being sure about timing and all of that with CPS, but at some point a parent who doesn't speak up is basically no better than the other parent, because they are both allowing it to continue. Don't be the one who allows it to continue.

Love and hugs...

~ Anne ~

We are the masters of our own fate; the architects of our own destiny.

Gwen's picture

Jo, honey, you are right. You are done. Document as much as you can--write down all the details. Did you tell this woman if she ever looks up your personal information again, you will file charges? Then there's no more to be said to her.

Check with your card company. Nothing will happen as a result of that, it just gives you peace of mind. Do whatever you can to confirm, and document everything.

Then you have several choices, in my mind. Press charges and completely disengage from this family, perhaps your relationship.

Don't press charges, but disengage from DK. Don't write to her, don't speak to her. Disengage from trying to stepparent the girls.
You need your BF's total support in this. If you don't have it, see the choice above.

Find a middle ground between disengaging from DK, and still stepparenting the girls, with some modicum of support from your BF, and accept that your life is sometimes, and perhaps often, going to look like a Lifetime movie.

These poor kids have been raised by a woman with low morals and weak character. It is natural for them to defend their mother. How can they be expected to have developed strong principles with her as a guide, strong enough to overcome the mother-defense instinct? That is not to say that they are right, but that is the reason. I think you already know that. But they are KIDS. They can't run your life. You can't sacrifice yourself Jo.

Under no circumstances should your SD be allowed to get away with threatening you. It is time for your BF to step up. She should be disciplined for what she said. If he doesn't step up, Jo, THINK HARD. It's not only about love. Love is essential, but it's not the only essential factor in a long-term relationship. Sometimes love is there, but b/c of other non-controllable, outside factors, happiness is not. You are the only one who knows the right answer.

Think about what you want your life to look like in 5 years, 10 years? If more of this is okay, then try the disengaging thing. There WILL be more of this kind of thing, and it will affect you to varying degrees depending on how good you are at disengaging. I get a feeling you are too soft-hearted to disengage much. I say that from a place of total friendship and support. If more of this is not okay, then perhaps a more difficult decision needs to be made. Your happiness and sanity are valuable.

P.S. Honey, DK doesn't need to be crazy for you to insist that communication should be short and only about the kids. Your BF and DK shouldn't have any other relationship other than co-parenting. Period. Since she is crazy, all the more reason.

P.P.S. Document, document, document. Document, document, document. Did I say document? The next time something like this happens--and it will--or the next time, or time after that, it might be time to go back to a mediator/court for new parenting plan rules that are judicially enforceable.

P.P.P.S. As always, this is just my opinion.

P.P.P.P.S. We are all here for you!

Little Jo's picture

First off, Good call Anne. I did what you said, called the credit companies and put a fraud alert on. Thank you.

I called the child support credit card company. They couldn't tell me anything. They told me to call N.Y.Child Support. I did. The guy was mad. He told me this is out of your hands now. "We take this kind of thing very serious, we will launch an investigation, we have ways of finding out exactly what computer looked up your info." I was very surprised. An I got a knot in my stomach wonder what aftermath is going to come.

I talked with BF last night at length, along with his sister by phone. He agreed completely. He will no longer take calls from her. He has voicemail. And if he does talk to her it can only be kid related. That's it. I told him I will no longer respond to e-mail from her or the girls. DK is not going to take this well at all.

Finally, and some of you are not going to be please about this, but we are going to put in that she gets sole legal custody. No more joint legal.

Oh, today, BF got his paycheck. Child support starting taking straight from his check. F#$king funny thing is they ony took 150. She was better off when he gave her 250 in cash every week. DK is going to lose her brain when she realizes she is going to get less.

I feel like I'm on the verge of a major panic attack.

Anne 8102's picture

Calm down, honey. Whatever fallout there is from this is NOT your fault. It's the fault of whomever perpetrated this crime ON you... namely the BM and her accomplice, if there really is one.

I don't understand the custody thing. Is this so that you don't have to be consulted about decisions? Or does this change your visitation, as well? Just curious. Hey, you've got to do what you've got to do. Sometimes you just can't pull everyone out of the burning house... sometimes you have to grab the ones closest to you and save them first.

Don't panic... calm down. You'll get through it. We're here for you! I'm going to leave you with some very sage words of advice that I routinely get from my four year-old daughter: "Mama, breave in! (Takes deep breath.) Now, breave out. (Exhales.)" Wink She's little, but smart.

~ Anne ~

We are the masters of our own fate; the architects of our own destiny.

loonybonusmom's picture

You have to protect yourself Jo, and your own sanity!! But don't feel guilty Jo because you have done nothing wrong here! Reporting her is the only option if this is the lengths she will go to! If it makes you feel any better Jo, the only time we had a good experience in the courts was our first duty counsil lawyer who told us..joint legal, and sole custody are only legal words documented in a filing cabinet somewhere...if you are dealing with someone who refuses to coorerate regardless, there is no one who can diminish who we really are...the kids parents. And the only time it would come up...if the custodial dies I only know this cause our bm took us to court solely to beable to will ss to her parents! Ya honey welcome to ... what is it we always say, try, and learn about.... detachment, disengaging, and with any luck, some peace of mind. Cheers Honey!! PS...atleast she has got it in the butt on child support! That's why our bm's won't take us to court, they know they would get alot less with ten years of overpaying to make up for!! Have a great weekend ok...chin up you are at the beginning of...?something good I hope

Caitlin's picture

I'm sorry you're going through all this insanity! I feel for you, you know I do. Please don't lose your head over this - you'll get through it - with us right by your (cyber)side!

Little Jo's picture

I am feeling better now. Earlier I felt like I couldn't breathe. My chest was tight. The problem is a am a chicken shit at times. A scared-y cat. (I gotta start telling myself I'm Fearless ) I suck at confrontation.

The custody change is because she would no longer have the right to call at nauseum. And if anything happens legally with the girls, BF is not responsible. Example if SD14 drops out of school, CPS can't go after him for child endangerment.

I like Anne's burning house theory. At this point I truely feel like I have to save my-self & BF.

I wish it didn't have to be this way.

"I'll be alright in a year or two after I calm down". Detective Donahue - Soap

dbsojo's picture

That's where it hurts the most. Stripping her of any remaining dignity isn't so bad either.
Good Luck!

laughterandtears's picture

Sweetie, don't think of as a confrontation. See it for what it is, protecting your self. Every woman has a right to protect what is hers.

Nevermind the DK. I have a saying to my SS's BB. "It's called mind over matter, I don't mind cause you don't matter.

You have a lot of love here hon, hang in there.
IF IT WAS EASY, EVERYONE WOULD DO IT.

Nymh's picture

I know what it feels like to have your privacy violated and your personal information stolen by the BM. I'm so sorry to say that I know exactly how you feel. I'm proud of you for putting fraud alerts on your accounts. You might also want to call and flag any accounts that you have at major retailers, utilities, banks, etc. BM would stop at nothing to get my personal info and called my cellphone company, went to my bank, and all sorts of other things pretending to be me.

Try not to let the adrenaline or the feelings of the situation overwhelm you. Stay calm and collected if you can. She will get what's coming to her.

I'm so glad that the NY Child Support place is so serious about this. A lot of places don't take this so seriously, so in a weird way you're lucky that she went about stealing your information that way instead of, say, calling the water company and pretending to be you.

Keep us updated on what happens. We're rooting for you!

*~So sayeth Nymh~*

Little Jo's picture

The more I think about it, the more freaked out I am. What if she knows my ex's SS#, Address, I'm sure she knows my SS#, exactly. What else did that give her access too. And if & when she gets caught, what will she resort to next.!

I can't thank you all enough for being here for me. You ladies & Steve, all wonderful people. Gee, Can I give you DK's my-space, then she'll know I have a small army behind me.

Thank you, Thank you, Jo

"I'll be alright in a year or two after I calm down". Detective Donahue - Soap

tiff's picture

I haven't been on in a while- But I am sorry you have to go through this. What is wrong with her why would she even think about looking at your personal info - she needs psychiatric help seriously and from the sound of it so does SD. Probably caused by her mom no doubt.

holeekrap789's picture

Hey me and Steve are right here in NY with you....ya wanna give us her address and phone number?---lol

Lisa Dawn

Little Jo's picture

Hopeful it won't come down to that. But I haven't forgotten
about our trip. Steve and Anne's guns, the fying pan, the fine wine, ect...

I'm still a little freaked as to what is going to happen when they find the person that looked into my account.

"I'll be alright in a year or two after I calm down". Detective Donahue - Soap

Anne 8102's picture

Okay, maybe not LOCAL local, but I'm just in CT, a hop, skip and jump away!

~ Anne ~

We are the masters of our own fate; the architects of our own destiny.

Cruella's picture

As you probably already know reading my vents I am very touchy on the privacy issue. BM has NO business getting any of your personal info and you have rights to privacy. I am so sick of some of these BM thinking just because their ex's remarry that they have the right to do whatever they please. I have no sympathy for this person. She needs to go to jail or at least get fired.