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Need advice..about responsiblity and chores

kaffonseca's picture

Here's the deal..I'm the only one in house who does the dishes..I clean up after everyone in the house..FH HATES dishes..so he basically NEVER does them. Anyways, FH also ALWAYS closes things very tight so they can't be opened, soda bottles,..etc..but he also closes SS2's bottles and sippy cups soo tight that I can never open them. So I leave SS2's bottles and cups for FH to wash. I don't think that is unreasonable. I clean up my dishes, BD's dishes, SS5's dishes and FH's dishes..is it too much to ask that he washes his SS2's bottles when he visits?

So there are 6 bottles/cups on my kitchen counter lined up. They have been there for a month (not joking). I have rminded FH many times about them. So I was trying to talk to him the other day about things that bother me around the house and how I DO EVERYTHING for his SS5..etc. So I bring up the bottles..he has the nerve to say "why can't you just do them when you do the dishes...why are you making such a big deal of it"

So I told him again how I CANT because I CANT open the covers..than I went on to tell him..what is the issue I clean up after EVERYONE..you can't clean a few of YOUR son's bottleS? So he said he would take care of them that day (yesterday)..guess what they are STILL there.

Should I suck it up and wash them? or leave them there..
Honestly I think I should just leave them there.

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kaffonseca's picture

they actually don't smell beleive it or not - if the did they would be in the TRASH quickly... maybe because none of them had mile..just juice and they are empty and the covers are SOOO tight..lol.

I do ALL the cooking..FH has Thursdays off and he does do his own laundry..but that is about it when it comes to chores..and he is supposed to clean SS5's bedroom but he doesn't..my daughter ended up doing it yesterday becaus you couldn't even walk in it.

"He grew up in my heart, not my belly"

kaffonseca's picture

if I bring it up that he didn't "take care of them" it will start an argument as he will think i'm just "bitching"

"He grew up in my heart, not my belly"

Sebbie's picture

I would rather be hated for who I am, then loved for who I am not.

everyone in the house to carry their load. Personally, I would not say another word about it, I would just throw the bottles and sippy cups away. I would then let fh know that he can either purchase new ones, and start opening them when requested to, or they will be thrown away agian and agian. If he doesnt mind the expense, then problem solved.

Wicked2Three's picture

I swear I am the only person that lives at our house and I know at one point we had 2 adults and 5 children! However, I am the only who knows where anything is or how anything is done. So, I hear ya.

Things that have worked for me in the past:

1) I do all the vacuuming because I like to vacuum. I give a 5 minute warning. If there is ANYTHING on the floor that will impede my path I will throw it out. After the warning if there is still stuff..."Oh! I just moved it out of the way so it didn't ruin my new Dyson. You might want to look in the trash. Sorry."

2) If something is not in a place of honor or treasured, I assume it's trash and that's how I will treat it too. Turd Blossom is mysteriously missing a pair of earrings. Hummm I wonder what could have happened to them? I have issues with this kid and her ears, a story for another day. "Oh really? It was on the floor. It didn't look important. You might want to look in the trash. Sorry."

3) If something is impossible to deal with (bottles or cups) I will throw them in the trash, buy new and show DH the receipt. He is worried about money so this works. "Sorry I had to buy new, but..."

4) I used ask that the SK's clean their own bathroom. They did a horrible job! So, I would have DH go in and clean it again. Now I just tell DH something needs to be done and he needs to figure out how it gets done. I don't care if he does it or delegates it as long as it gets done and done right. "Sorry, but they left hair on the floor, toothpaste in the sink and pee on the seat! You are their parent and I am not supposed to train them. If you can't teach them, I guess you will have to take on the burden yourself. (Followed by a very sympathetic) Sorry Sad "

Trust me if you play, what I like to call, "cute and stupid" it works like a charm! You can't use anger in any of these situations or it will seem like you are trying to pick a fight or you are just overreacting. I had to go a long way around the block and come at it 6 different directions before I figured it out. OH PS: Sorry in every sentence = Sorry YOU haven't figured it out.

My house still looks like an internal tornado hit, but when something someone else does or doesn't do irritates me...I have set it up so if I take action I won't get the wrath.

It's just what worked for me. Good luck Wink

Amazed's picture

smack FH in the damned head for talking to you like that. WTF is that about??!! Our deal is,"I cook...DH cleans up." If you wash those bottles you are setting the stage to make yourself a doormat forever.

"We all have different desires and needs, but if we don't discover what we want from ourselves and what we stand for, we will live passively and unfulfilled.”

Last Nerve's picture

First thing I'd do is throw out the bottles! At 2 he's more than old enough to be using a sippy cup, and moving towards a regular no-lid cup. JMO...

I do the majority of the cooking, and the dishes. The trade off with DH for the dishes is that he vacuums, I hate vacuuming... However, my DH and your's have the same over-tightening problem. DH over-tightens his go-cups constantly. We had a stand off a couple of weeks ago, I did the same thing as you, and let them pile up for a few days. When he asked about it, I told him that I was tired of fighting with the lids, and from now on if he didn't take the lids off when he put them at the sink, they would not get washed. Haven't had that problem since.

Wicked2Three's picture

OH! I forgot to mention that in my long rambling post!

2 year olds don't need bottles. Please don't lynch me. My babies gave them up really early. Pacifiers too.

Try these http://www.learningcurve.com/product/detail/Y1157A3?locale=en_US

You can find them at Walmart and Target. We use open lid cups at the table or in the kitchen, but if the little one is wandering the house or going in the car or to a non-baby house to visit...we use these. They are fantastic, dishwasher safe and easy for me to open.

Sasha's picture

Tape them to his chest with duct tape }:)

WowjustWow's picture

getting people to help clean in my house is like pulling teeth. Or if SD's do help, they do it half ass and I end up having to either fuss about it or just re-do it quickly so it is done.

DH's idea of helping clean is to shred old papers (bills, CC solicitations, etc). While necessary, it really doesn't help me too much when people are coming over and there is folded laundry all over the living room and sand all over the floor (a downfall to living at the beach).

I took the path of Wicked. If it's on the floor and in my way, in the trash it goes. I don't care what it is. I give warning and then vacuum away.

~ Formerly ToTheEdge. I have stepped down from the ledge.

JMC's picture

JamaicanMeCrazy
DISNEY LIED...THERE IS NO 'HAPPILY EVER AFTER'

one warning & in the trash it goes! I've got to try that one and pass it along to my FIL. SD17 lives with her grandparents and Gramps was always complaining that she leaves her thong undies lying in the bathroom floor - one day he got fed up with the mess and actually cut the thongs! It was hysterical!! I laughed til I cried when he was telling us in front of SD17,man was she was pissed! Unfortunately, she still does it - I'd keep cutting 'em up.

kaffonseca's picture

if I throw them in the trash it will cause an argument somehow and of course ILL be the one that is on the end of his anger..

as for the bottles - I AGREE!! but both FH and BM love to "baby" the baby.

I think I'll mix the advice. I'll leave them til' Thursday (that is his day off) if they aren't done that day than I will let him now how mad I am, I will wash the damn things and than tell him that he either take the tops off..or they will just go in the trash in the future.

"He grew up in my heart, not my belly"

Wicked2Three's picture

Read my post again. I understand the wrath. If you find a way that it looks like an accident, it works and you will get the result you want. It sounds like a few others have done it too.

Another thing that works for me is what Love & Logic calls an energy drain. Anyone heard of it? You say "My energy is so drained by....you fill in the blank...your actions or by having to pick up after everyone or by trying to open bottles, that I just don't have the energy to...again you fill in the blank...to DH have sex with you or to the kids, play blah blah blah.

My son, 4 years old, had a fit on the playground one day. Total humiliation for me and a complete energy drain. I didn't speak all the way home. He was still demanding this that and the other when we walked in the door. I told him (in a very calm voice) that his behavior had drained my energy and that I was so tired that I couldn't possibly help him...turn on cartoons, make him a snack, play games. I laid my lazy butt on the couch and watched Oprah until Daddy came home to rescue both of us. The next day I told him that if he did not drain my energy after preschool that I would take him for a bike ride. He followed through and so did I. He has not been ill behaved in public since! LOL All I have to do is say "Oh wow! You are really draining my energy."

With energy drains I have:
Come home to a clean house.
Had laundry washed, folded and put away.
Well beahved little kids.

It's amazing and powerful. I wouldn't pull it out all the time. Just when you really need it.

Amazed's picture

I am really going to give this a try...my jaw was in the hanging open position after reading this. It just makes SO much sense and sounds so simple. I'm in total awe! I'll let ya know if it works on my willful little family.

"We all have different desires and needs, but if we don't discover what we want from ourselves and what we stand for, we will live passively and unfulfilled.”

kaffonseca's picture

wicked2three..I am going to seriously put your idea to work!

I just thought of a humerous idea..put the baby cups on his side of the bed!!! Tell him as soon as you wash these suckers you can get into our bed and closer to me..- they'll be spotless and clean in two seconds!

OR mabye I could line them up in the kitchen so when he walks in door tonight he'll trip over them..oops..they must've grown two feet and walked!

"He grew up in my heart, not my belly"

Wicked2Three's picture

OK, before anybody gets the wrong idea...

That's not really the way it works. You have to make the change be the other persons idea.

Here is how an energy drain works:
1) Let people know how you feel..."I'm drained."

2) Tell them why you feel that way..."If I didn't have to do all the dishes I might have more energy to go for a walk with you in the evening."

3)How they can fix it..."It might put back some of my energy if someone were to help me do the dishes one night a week."

Although tempting, I can't condone leaving dishes around like land mines. Biggrin

Most Evil's picture

Leave them there until he does them - he is counting on you to cave. If it gets on your nerves too bad, give him 24 hour notice they will be thrown away.

"A lie told often enough becomes the truth." - Vladimir Lenin

Stick's picture

when he's lying on the couch and say PLEASE OPEN THIS - I cannot!!! and stand there while he opens each one? And then throw them in the dishwasher? or in the sink opened? This reminds me of the Everybody Loves Raymond episode about the suitcase on the stairs! (Not to make too light of the situation!) Anyway, there's bigger things to argue about than this... The sippy cups are the symptom of the real problem. Take them to him and have them open them and then wash them. And then, start dividing up the chores. And the Wicked2Three way sounds like a good idea in this situation!!

Wicked2Three's picture

That episode of Everybody Loves Raymond was one of my absolute favorites. Makes me smile just thinking about it. As a matter of fact I think they were all good.

Rags's picture

As far as stuff left out or laying around by kids......... pile it all on their bed(s). They will clean it up.

Regards,

Success is rarely final. Failure is rarely fatal. It is courage and consistency of effort that count. Vince Lombardi

kaffonseca's picture

I totally agree..my BD13 cleans her own room, she leaves stuff out I just toss it on her bed..she actually keeps her room very clean. She vacuums once a week and does do the dishes..one time when she was little she was washing a glass, it broke and she had a huge cut that required stitches so she is deathly afraid of going near a sink, so I have her do other stuff like laundry.

"He grew up in my heart, not my belly"