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dakotamom's picture

ugh. i just don't understand it. we went out to supper last night, Dh and i, dh's parents and the skids. dhs parents always want to do these family meals during the week when the skids don't visit much, they miss seeing them. for all i care they can have them for visitation weekends and have the skids invade their house.
ss15 finally bussed off all his matty, curly hair that didn't fit under his baseball hat. i told him how much nicer he looked with his hair short. he says back yea it's nice and i dont have to wash it. ick. i asked why he would even say something like that, you still have to wash it ss15. he smiles and says yea i know i was just playing. gma shoots me a look like don't you insult little ss15. dh was in the bathroom so he didn't get to hear the opening conversation.
fast forward to later in the night and ss17 asks dh how to get better fuel economy. he has an older, small 4x4 truck. dh told him to get a newer car that would have better mileage. a truck that old will not be good on gas. ss17 is mechanically challanged. he drives in drive down the interstate adn overdrive going down the city streets because someone told him this is better on the truck. dh said put it in OD and leave it alone. ss17 had drove unsure of how long with his truck in 4x4 because it got around better in the snow. this is true, but he forgot to take it out of 4x4, Dh was mad and told ss15 to watch ss17 and make sure he isn't driving in 4x4 when he didn't need to be.
dh proceeds to tell ss17 that he would buy the truck for $1000 and ss17 should ask his mom if she would help him buy something else. on the way to taking the skids back to bms house Dh tells ss17 he will help him buy a new car, get him set up with a loan and i chime in that ss17 will be the one making the payments. ss17 doesn't like this idea. ss17 says but i'm your kid and you love me lots right dad. dh says he'll help him whenever he needs help, he will never let his kids down. i had kids so that i coudl take care of you guys - i'm ready to throw up at all this bullshit. dh tells ss17 that next year when he goes to college he'll make sure ss17 has all the books, furnishings, everything he needs so that he won't have to pay for it.
we get rid of them and before we even pull out of the driveway i say you're promising them too much. i'm not against helping him if he needs it, but i wouldn't be sayign we'll help you with this this and this because what happens if that time rolls around and you can't help like you promised because you've got your own bills to pay. DH says that his bills will have to wait because his boys will always come first. i said and that is why i'm glad we have separate checking accounts, that if any money from me is donated to ss17 or his college experience it will be because i want to, not because it was promised to him because i know damn well that he will come back with his hand out saying "but you said...."
my initial gift for ss17 for graduation as long as he was still going to go to college was i was going to get him the bedding, storage bin, the little things i remembered needing when in college. but all dh's talk basically stating that it was now expected that we help him makes it not seem like the gift it is supposed to be and totally takes the wind out of my sail and i dont even want to do it any more.
Dh complains that my parents dont give me money or buy the things i talk about (Dh and i are wanting to get a golfcart with our tax return) dh sayd that my parents should get it since we never spend the $$ like my sister did on her wedding. well they hosted a party for us and they've got their own shit going on. my dad owns his own business and they have grandchildren from my sister that they spoil. they always gave me gas and stuff when i'd come visit and my dad would always slip me a little cash if he had it - DH doesnt' know this Smile i dont' expect my parents to buy me things. i have a job, i am capable of providing for myself and these last few talks dh has had with his kids makes me think that he will never have them fully responsible for themselves. i'm now hopefully thinking on the dramatic side of paying for their cars forever, paying their mortgage, paying for their hobbies. it's just ridiculous to think that the skids are so freeking entitled by Dh adn his family!!!!!

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dakotamom's picture

yep, he thinks they should buy us a golfcart with the money we saved by going to the J of the P instead of a big wedding like my sister.

I racked up a lot of debt in college and i'm paying all that back by myself. college loans i'm paying by myself. 3 cars i've paid for by myself.

We got wedding money from them, but DH didn't think it was equal to what they spent for sister so he is all for getting equaled up. Not me. i just ignore him.

DH has his parents cover his ass and be there for him for everything though. so by my parents showing me what the world is like in having to pay for things you want yourself, his help him get whatever he wants. he's a spoiled brat at 41. and his parents are still together - not divorced so i'm not sure what kind of guilty parenting is going on there.

i will have to say his parents are very generous to us, but never do i expect it. i treat it as a gift and i will give them thank you cards and when they've watched my dog while we've been out of town i try to repay them just so they know i'm not in for a free ride as their son and grandchildren are - but i'm sure they dont' see it that way.

dakotamom's picture

and that's what pisses me off. He and i had this conversation about ss17 getting something newer and better on gas once in college. the town's about an hour away so really not that bad. the plan -or so i thought- was for ss17 to get a loan for the car and ss17 would be responsible for this. then he's offering to buy ss17's truck so he can resell it and make more money on it and that he'll just buy ss17 something so that he knows he gets somethign dependable instead of letting bm handle it. WHAT?!?! when did this turn from ss17 buying his own vehicle and hopefully respecting it to DH buying him something. First off i will just say we have NO room to get another vehicle loan. i have my latest vehicle on loan that i have made 7 payments on so it's got a ways to go, DH refinanced his motorcycle - that has 4 more years to go, and we have another that was just to pay off credit card bills.
I will not have my name tied to anything for a skid. they will NOT pay it and it will come back on whoever co-signs for them. this is like Dh's divorce all over again and he's such an idiot he doesn't think his kids can do any wrong. he'll hopefully wake up when he's paying the payment for his little boys Biggrin :sick:

dakotamom's picture

i hear you on the student loans. yea they suck paying back, but i'm the one that benefited from going to school. i have no problem paying the loans back, i just wish the company would chill out a little bit. i'll get you paid but the car payment and rent come first.

i guess i had never seen him in this light before. they're my parents and i think they did a fine job with me. it's taught me to never expect someone to come bail me out of a financial jam and if someone does - be EXTREMELY GRATEFUL!!! not expectant of it.

dakotamom's picture

Dh never went to school, so he said that by him taking the burden (aka: responsibility) away of having to pay for a car, gas, books, food for ss17 that he would continue to stay in school and gain a better life than Dh has.
I'm beyond pissed at this point that i'm actually speechless. i'm thinking to myself does this really matter to fight about now?? he wont' be going out tomorrow and buying ss17 a car so why am i getting worked up about it. the final thought i have on the matter is that DH thinks that by taking away all the burden (responsibility) that ss17 will have no reason to quit school. not like he'll have to get a job to pay for things and fall behind and drop out, but in reality that there is nothing you can do. if ss17 doesnt' like school adn chooses to drop out what are you going to really do to force him to stick with it? you can take away the challanges that may come around, but that doesnt' mean that the end result you're seeking to avoid won't still happen.
take the silver spoon out of his ass and yours and grow up to be big boys!!!! aaaahhhhhhhh!!
if he fails at school it's by his own doing, you're not goign to stop it.

dakotamom's picture

DH can justify everything even no matter how retarded it sounds. i almost hope DH is just saying things and then when i call him out on it later that he will think about it and we can decide as adults later?? but i also thought we had a plan of how to handle the vehicle situation until Dh threw the curve ball. I don't know if something caused this whole "i'm superdad with super wallet" mentality, but i wanted to kick the super heroes ass!

i could only hope DH would cut them off after graduation but i know better. all i ask is they live somewhere else.

Willow2010's picture

:jawdrop: I am sorry, but your DH sounds weird! I can see doing what he want to do for his kids. IF HE HAS THE MONEY! Does not sound like he does.

The weird part is expecting handouts at his age.

dakotamom's picture

If he has money is the key. he will do side jobs for extra cash and he's never had to ask me for money to pay his bills. he is the type that makes $20 and wants to spend $25. he can save money but there has to be an actual goal (golf cart, vehicle) something he has seen and wants. there is no saving for a rainy day.

he's an only child so he's spoiled, they had foster kids growing up after he was older but they dont' maintain contact. family is a big thing for Dh's parents since they have both lost theirs so i guess they are trying to buy their love too????

dakotamom's picture

i can understand wanting the best for your child. but at what point do you quit helping them and start letting them be responsible for themself and quit babying them?!?!