At What Point will DH stop believing the LIES for SD
The past few days have really been so dramatic. I will be so glad when SD is out of the group home and doesn't call here as much. Of course, she only calls when she wants to tell DH something BAD that has happened. I honestly feel that she just loves getting him upset and worried.
She calls DH upset and crying. She was in a fight. She told dh that she didn't do ANYTHING and another girl jumped her. She said she got up to walk away, the girl jumped on the table then jumped off the table on to SD's back , knocked SD to the ground and started punching her face. Her face was swollen and bruised. She tells him that she got in trouble but the other girl didn't. DH goes into panic mode. He is upset because the staff should have stopped the fight. I try to inform him that there is probably more to this story than what he is hearing. Why would SD get punished and not the other girl? Common sense would state that SD was more involved. I asked him to talk to the staff. According to him, the staff would just lie because they want to keep their jobs. Yes, more people are now just lying about SD. The school principal, the teachers, students, neighborhood kids and total strangers all LIE about SD. SD is the ONLY person on this earth that doesn't lie.
DH gets so worked up because he doesn't want anyone laying their hands on SD. I understand BUT if she puts her hands on them FIRST then the other person has a right to defend themselves. SD lies so much. His first reaction should be let me talk to the adult in charge FIRST before I jump to any conclusions. Dh thinks that SD is this poor,sweet innocent child who is bullied at school. In fact, the principal has stated that SD IS the BULLY. Dh just can't see it. He doesn't want SD at this group home because she is a "Good egg" and the other kids are "Bad eggs". SD doesn't need to be there because she doesn't have any behavioral issues according to DH. I guess that is why SD is suspended from school so much. He just can't take off those rose colored glasses.
Dh talked to the staff. It seems that SD was making sexually noises and gestures while eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwhich. The other girl called her a pervert. Both girls got into a screaming match which was started by SD. The other girl slapped SD in the face. The staff intervened and BOTH girls were punished. SD punished for sexual behavior and instigating and the other girl for slapping SD. The nurse actually spent 30 minutes with SD and her face was fine and not bruised or swollen.
DH found out some more interesting information once he contacted the staff. It seems that SD can't keep her hands off the other kids. She is sexually harrassing them. The staff informed him that she could possibly have this reaction to others because of the alleged rape. DH calls BM and BM informs him that SD has had that problem BEFORE the alleged rape. Now I have another reason not to allow her around my son, ever.
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Lies lies lies yeah, their gonna get you
My SO, he still thinks his precious daughter SD19 is little miss innocent. Even though while cleaning out her room last January, we found a girly toy, a pipe for smoking weed, a used pregnancy test and a used condom. Added to this that she was/is a compulsive liar. Your DH, aka ostrich, is not doing his precious any favors. She sounds mentally disturbed, as well as enabled. Like she needs REAL help, and not just "oh poor babeeeeee".
She sounds horrid, and like someone you definitely want/need out of your life.
Sounds like it's time someone
Sounds like it's time someone tells him that while him and BM sstill seem to think the sun shines out of her arse, EVERYONE ELSE - principal - teachers - group home staff - can see she has many issues, and that if he continues to deny that perhaps the issues are in fact hers, she will never get over them.
I see a pattern here. And it
I see a pattern here. And it is real. To real. These men can not see what is right is front of their face. The truth doesn't matter. Nothing matters but their precious daughters or skids. The reason their children have such problems is because of them. They do not parent them. As children when they do something wrong and you tell them about it you are told you are picking on them. So they grow up with no rules and no manners. Because of this they have problems with people and situations in life. The real world doesn't work that way and our DH's feel sorry for their kids because they still think that they never do anything wrong. Everyone else in this world is wrong. WHY??? I just can't wrap my brain around how stupid these grown a$$ men are. It is just pathetic.
Is it just me
who thinks only one third of the problem is getting the punishment and help they need?
In a better world, this girl's parents would also be receiving intensive, inpatient treatment for their abysmal parenting. They both have serious issues.
Oh yeah. You got that right!
Oh yeah. You got that right!
Reminds me of SD18
She just got kicked out of her group home. About a week before, she was telling us about some girls that wanted to "jump" her and she was innocent - only defending her friend. Lo and behold, she got kicked out and the girl who she claims was the instigator didn't. Hmmm.....right! She then started her lie about being pregnant which I now think she did cause she knew she was about to get kicked out and hoped we would take pity on her and take her in. Watch out for these sociopaths.
DH doesn't usually buy the
DH doesn't usually buy the skids' lies but SS17 totally lied to his face and he bought it. SS17 doesn't live with us or BM but he skipped a week of school to go on a trip with a buddy. The school called DH to ask where SS was and SS told DH that he told the principal he would gone all week. At the time SS had 4 Fs all in core classes. The principal said, "SS told me had a Dr. appt. and would be back tomorrow." DH turns to me and says, "Maybe the principal forgot SS told him." Uh huh, DH. The school logged on SS's attendance record, "SS lied about Dr. appt." It was epic. I think about 90% of what comes out of the skids' mouths are lies. It's second nature to them.
I really hope that your SD is getting some good out of the group home. Her mother and father certainly aren't doing her any favors.
I work with suspended
I work with suspended students in my school district. If I had a dime for every story I got from kids (and parents) claiming "it wasn't their fault", or "they didn't do anything wrong" or "their actions were justified" , I'd own 12 of my own islands. One of my favorites was when we had a huge riot at one of our high schools. 20 some kids got suspended and arrested. The mom of one of the students came to my office crying, telling me she just didn't know what to do, her daughter was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, other people had been bullying her, she did nothing wrong etc. etc. Usually I'm smarter than a 5th grader and I don't fall for this crap, but this woman was good, I believed her, felt bad for her, actually got a tear in my eye and gave her a hug and told her everything would be OK. The next day I was talking to my supervisor and he was telling me that the student who instigated the whole riot was going to be suspended for the rest of the year. I asked him which one that was and .... yep... you guessed it... this woman's daughter! I told my supervisor how mom came in and gave me a completely different story.. he said nope her daughter instigated the whole thing, they had proof on camera AND on top of that, mom loaded daughter and some cousins in her mini van the night of the riot, and drove around town looking to "settle the score" with the other students involved in the riot.
Your SD sounds like a master manipulator and usually those master manipulators (like my SD and yours) become masters because people like our DH's roll over and continue to believe lie after stupid lie after stupid lie. So why would they stop? It works!
OH, my gosh
I can't believe that the mother would drive her kid around looking for trouble and then turn on the tears at the school.
I am seeing that there just isn't any hope.
One thing you could say to DH is this...
There is one common demoninator in all of this. It isn't you, BM, me, the Principal, girls at school, boys at school... it is SD. When Christie Brinkley got divorced for the 4th time she tried to make out like the innocent victim. The judge turned to her and said something like ... You have been married 4 times. The one common denominator in all your marriages that have ended in divorce is you. Think about that before your remarry."
No DH, she is not coming to live here. She is feral and antisocial and lies to get sympathy, attention or a free pass. I am sorry she has nowhere else to go. That is not my problem. You and BM parented her into this person. You deal with it. I will not put up with violence, aggressive behaviour, stealing and lying. When she can hold down the same job for 2 years and stay out of trouble THEN we will re-evaluate things. Until then, no way is she coming into my home.