Therapist always says dh is right
I am so frustrated and annoyed right now! Dh and I had our marriage therapy last night and once again, I am in the wrong. I want Christmas presents to be even in price. Here is the real issue, I am broke and dh is not. Due to car issues I am broke. I spent about $75 in presents for bs this year. He knows and understands that I am struggling. He is ok with Christmas being small. Dh is not getting it. He is spending money left, right and sideways for his kids. I don't want it rubbed in bs face that his step siblings are getting a ton of presents and he isn't. Our therapist said that I am the one who wants to seperate finances so I need to deal with the consequences. This is just the tip of the iceberg to be honest. Dh and bs barely speak to each other. Bs is in counseling and he hates our home and wants him and I to leave. I am just so frustrated. My life has gone to hell this year.
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hang in the cracker - yes you
hang in the cracker - yes you asked for separated finances... now are you dealing with it correctly...
is the house hold split done accordingly.... or simply 50/50
fine your car broke down and you had to pay for it, guess what no skid will ever sit foot in that car again and DH can walk before you ever hand him the keys to your car, split finances does not mean screw your partner through the ears,
and this is what your DH is doing.... time to teach him a lesson.
Explain to BS - you are broke, and DH is being an idiot trying to teach you lessons instead of his kids, CHristmas might not have allot of presents or expensive presents, but that's not what Christmas is about, do your own little gift swopping with BS and simply go to church... if you do not belong to one, any will do, it will take you out of the house and you and BS will have some fun time... walk around watch people... to have a memorable Christmas is not measured to what gift you got....
time to teach him a
time to teach him a lesson...
I think that this is what got her into this mess in the first place. Cracker decided she was going to "disengage" from his kids. Her SD got ill at school and cracker refused to help her DH out to go and pick her up (I can't recall.. but he wasn't able to easily for some reason). Then, she got in a similar situation when she got stuck at work and couldn't give BS a ride to where he had to be to go to his school Universal trip. (never mind that there should have been a ton of other options from UBER to friends of parents).
So, her DH disengaged from HER snowflake, just as she disengaged from HIS.
I see absolutely no issue if they have decided to have separate finances if he buys his kids what HE wants with HIS money. She can by HER son what SHE can afford.
BUT.... these two are both in a locked horn situation. Both want to dismiss and ignore the other's kids. Both are angry at each other because they have BOTH done things that have hurt the kids in an effort to "show" their partner something. To be honest, I wouldn't want to be with a person who wanted to teach me a lesson. They both are currently in that mode.. teaching each other lessons and all the kids are getting the fallout. TBH, that is selfish on both their parts.
oh that sort of slipped my
oh that sort of slipped my mind - thought the name was known to me could not place it lol..
I'm back to my original posting then....
I think it's time to end this marriage cause no one will win...
We aren't locked horns we are
We aren't locked horns we are just disengaged from each others kids. We don't ever want to hurt each other. Dh has offered me money and to help me get a new car and make the payments on it. I just don't want to be dependent on him while we are struggling. It feels like usery.
It isn't going to hurt his
It isn't going to hurt his kids to have a smaller Christmas this year so my son doesn't have his face rubbed in it.
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I would tailor my spending so
I would tailor my spending so his kids wouldn't have their faces rubbed it it.
she did not make it clear -
she did not make it clear - they did not disengage from one another's children.... they say the did but they did not cause she still cares what DH buys for his kids.
they disengaged from one another and are in a power struggle, no one is prepared to give in...
I am unsure if I want to stay
I am unsure if I want to stay in our marriage. To take him money would be usery.
He isn't offering for my son,
He isn't offering for my son, he is offering for me. If he wanted to do for my son he would get him presents but he isn't.
Are you buying presents for
Are you buying presents for HIS kids?? If the agreement is that you buy for yours and he buys for his, then your DH is following procedure. This is the bed you made.
With what money? If I had
With what money? If I had money to buy them gifts I would use that money to get bs gifts. Dh has more than enough money and he knows that I am worried that bs will have to sit there and watch his kids open gift after gift.
The point is that HE buys for
The point is that HE buys for HIS kids and YOU buy for YOURS. So HE will only buy for YOUR kid if you are buying for his.
If you have the agreement that you buy for yours/he buys for his, then that is that. It is not your DH's fault that you do not have the money to buy equal amounts of presents for your son. You can take DH up on his offer of money to buy gifts for your son, then pay back DH.
SuperJew, wasn't that because
SuperJew, wasn't that because OP refused to pick up a sick SD from school because OP thought SD would puke in OP's car? Intentionally?
I loathe PrincASS and Pigpen.
I loathe PrincASS and Pigpen. However, I love my DH with all of my heart.
Translation: If one of the skids was sick and puking and needed to be picked up, I would pick them up because of my love for DH. Because my love for DH is greater than my dislike for the skids.
Exactly that, anotherstep.
Exactly that, anotherstep.
You have to see his point of
You have to see his point of view. You have disengaged from his.. he can't do things for YOUR kid anymore because that would be seen as unfair by his own children.
Him giving you money is allowing him to indirectly do something nice for your son maybe?
To make up for a trip he
To make up for a trip he missed. I would never make a kid sit there and watch another child open present after present.
We have the opposite problem
We have the opposite problem at our house. I have one BS and DH has Three.
I have a good job and DH makes less than half what I make. I pay the mortgage and bills and he pays for his vehicle, cell phones and CS.
I buy my BS shoes that run $150
DH pays less. The problem comes into play when MSS and OSS expect the same expensive shoe that BS gets. Sooooo BM goes out and buys them for her precious spawn (even though neither can afford them) and expects DH to pay for half. BM goes out and spends well over her means (because I can afford to do for my BS) and then turns around and expects DH to make up the difference over and above her child support and all the other extras he does.
When it came to holidays, I always got BS more than the SS's. Because I could afford to and because I didn't feel he should be punished for my marrying a man who made less money. But...I would give him only some of the presents at Christmas with the SS's and the rest I would give to him when it was just he and I. BS understood that he was getting more then they were but he also knew not to rub it in. BS never did.
Personally I think it if you are going to separate finances, then you have to expect there will be differences in what the kids get. She shouldn't expect her DH to pick up the slack for her lack of money of this is what she wanted all along. My DH doesn't expect me to buy for his kids like I would for mine.
One thing I do is provide ONE
One thing I do is provide ONE really good or expensive pair of tennis shoes a year and one nice pair of dress shoes a year.
If BS wanted shoes the rest of the year (that weren't for a specific sport he was playing) then he had to get them for a Birthday, Christmas or with his own money.
But BM never really understood that. My BS loves his shoes and always took excellent care of them. So he would get shoes anytime he had extra money.
All the SS's saw was that BS had new shoes and BM would try to compete. She never even considered that BS was buying most of them himself.
My son knows I am broke.
My son knows I am broke. While dh should be able to buy his kids what he wants I worry about bs just sitting there watching them open them in front of him.
No. His dad isn't able to get
No. His dad isn't able to get him. When he comes i to town or gets vacation bs visits with him. There isn't anywhere for us to go since I still have to work.
Volunteer at a shelter so
Volunteer at a shelter so your son can see what it's like to truly have nothing.
Crackergirl, does this
Crackergirl, does this counselor have their own skids? Remarriages? It makes a difference in point of view and guidance by any counselor. I would find out the counselor's background and if the counselor has a traditional family only, I would look for a counselor who has actually lived this mess and who knows how to advise you from first handed experience.
Our counselor is remarried
Our counselor is remarried and has a blended family. She is recommended in our area for blended families, it is her expertise. That is what they say anyway. She told me that dh should not change his Christmas traditions for my bs because that will make dh and his kids bitter towards him. She said bs is old enough to understand accept our financial differences and it is a good like lesson.
I pay a percentage based on
I pay a percentage based on our income. I make about 70,000 less a year then him and I have student loans that I have to pay.
Yes.
Yes.
What really sucks is my car
What really sucks is my car is somewhat still new and having all these issues. The dealership is giving me issues saying it is water damage and my insurance company is saying it isn't. I am just beyond frustrated!
then why not ask DH to help
then why not ask DH to help you with that issue.... instead of buying you a new car...
Dh wants me to trade it in
Dh wants me to trade it in and he will help me with the upside down amount. His name would be on it then and i don't want that.
smile and say thank you Hon,
smile and say thank you Hon, but I do not want a new car, I'm keeping this one... but thank you for helping me sorting it out.....
Dh has. He has settled the
Dh has. He has settled the best way to fix this is to trade it in.
DH is bluffing - he just does
DH is bluffing - he just does not want to help then.....
it's the easier option...
DingDingDingDingDing!
DingDingDingDingDing!
"She said bs is old enough to
"She said bs is old enough to understand accept our financial differences and it is a good life lesson."
I'm afraid this sounds like very good advice to me. If you don't want your dh buying for your kid or subsidizing you then this is what you've got and there's nothing wrong with it.
I think you may be projecting your own feelings on to your kid. You think of it as "rubbing his nose in it" so he is going to pick up on that and feel deprived and humiliated. But if you slap a smile on your face and get him all excited about the great Christmas you've planned for him, he will be happy and fine.
Your marriage does sound like it's in a very bad place. No matter what complaints you have against your dh, I think you would do yourself a favor by dropping this one. Tell him he's doing great for his kids planning a fun Christmas and mean it. What would that cost you? nothing. And it could make things much more pleasant at your house.
You asked your husband and
You asked your husband and that was ok to ask that he spend less. But he is under no obligation to fulfill your request and he can absolutely spend what he wants on his kids. Your son will survive. If he is young, he probably won't even notice, if he is older then he will understand if you explain to him that because of the car troubles this Christmas is going to be a bit smaller than usual for you two.
If you really want you could make sure the kids open gifts separately, or just make sure that all of the children behave graciously.
You are teaching your son great life lessons. You will be teaching him that life is not fair and that is OK. You will be teaching him how to be gracious and how to appreciate others good fortune without being bitter. You are teaching him that money means making a budget and that different things within that have priorities. Fixing a car so that you have transportation comes above gifts and so the gift budget needs to be reduced to accommodate this. You are teachingh him that love and kindness and thoughtfulness are the gifts that anyone can give no matter their budget and that they are even better than material gifts.
Oh.. yeah.... now I remember,
Oh.. yeah.... now I remember, the kid shoulder checked his mom and they called the cops.
Yeah, either her boy is a lot more out of control and less precious than she has tried to tell everyone, or her DH and his kids have it in for him somehow.
Either way, subjecting her child to basically the equivalent of a "hostile work environment" is really unfair. I guess the fact that she is financially not in a great place, being with this guy allows her to live in a place that she might not be able to on her own... maybe that's why she is allowing the poor treatment.
Crackergirl.. while I do
Crackergirl.. while I do think you and your DH have the right to buy for your bio kids as you can afford and wish with your own money. I would hope your DH could at least understand how having to watch people get way more than you while living in the same home could be difficult.
Maybe he would agree to do a bit of a private dinner or something with his kids where he could give them some of their better presents without you and your son being present. Then on Christmas day.. your son might not have to watch them open up GoPros (or whatever..lol) while he opens a pack of socks.
I am going to ask him to let
I am going to ask him to let his kids open most of their presents Christmas eve while bs and I go looking at Christmas lights. That way no one feels left out and dh can spend all he wants.
I know that most of you don't understand why I won't take his money. When he offers it he is snide and makes comments about bs not getting his feelings hurt. It would hurt bs and me worse to use his money knowing he doesn't want to give it for bs. We are in a bad spot right now and once I get my car situation figured out with either warranty or insurance then I can see about saving to get out if that is what I decide to do. Our marriage while it sounds bad, most of the time is fine as long as the kids aren't involved. Bs is bitter and angry at dh because dh pulled back from him. DH pulled back from bs because I pulled back from his kids. We are just learning to disengage from each others kids. My son is not perfect and yes he shoulder checked me but that was months ago, he sees a counselor and there has been no more violence.
Someone asked about the car situation. I let dhs sister borrow it and then had to have it towed home. She says it just stopped and she swears she didn't drive though any deep puddles. The dealership says there is water damage and the insurance company says there is not. I am waiting for the second adjusters report to see what it says.
The kindest thing she needs
The kindest thing she needs to do is make sure her son understands that she doesn't have the same financial resources that her DH has. She needs to prepare BS for the inevitability that his Christmas will be smaller than his stepsiblings'
Either you can try to control
Either you can try to control the whole world to prevent your son from getting his sensibilities fluttered. Or you can teach your son to be a strong, self-fulfilled person who can manage his own feelings and isn't consumed by envy every time someone has more than he does.
Either you can continue this drama with your dh and ask him to make various and sundry accomodations prolonging the tension and increasing the resentment and further bean counting. Or you can drop it right now, find something to praise your husband for and get into the spirit of the holiday resulting in less tension, more warmth between the two marriage partners and perhaps a bit better footing to tackle a real issue between you.
I agree with Fruit, and as a
I agree with Fruit, and as a COD I knew that while I was at my step grandparents that their first grandchild, my half brother, would be raking in the loot while I only had a few gifts but when I was at my grandparents house on my dads side I would rake in the loot. It just is what it is and what not a great time to teach kids that life isn't all peaches and ice cream.
Does your child not know that your husband isn't his father? Because if he does know that he isn't his dad why would he expect to be treated the same by DH as DH's own kids? This type of thinking means that you can't take your kid to someone's else Birthday party without explaining to the child that it isn't their Birthday and that is why they didn't get any gifts. Isn't a gift supposed to be about the thought behind the gift not just getting a bunch of crap?
As an adult you deal with people in higher positions than you getting a bigger bonus, is not getting the same bonus going to send your child over the edge or will you give him the coping skills to understand exactly what fruity says "Again, the harsh reality is there ARE inequities, financial and otherwise, in your marriage and household. Either you and your son need to deal with and/or accept them, or you need to
Why don't you overcome this money situation by giving your kid a Christmas Coupon good for $100 that can be spent any way he wants between 7/1/17 and 12/31/17, that way you can gift him something later if you honestly just can't tell your kid you don't have the money for something right now.
And lastly, is there not one thing you own that you can pawn to get some extra money to float you until you do get some extra cash, anyone besides DH that could help you out?
We have separate finances but
We have separate finances but we have SS12 and DS15. We have been together like 6 or 7 years. Well, in the past, we always made the amounts spent on Christmas equal because we felt that was best. We spent our own money, but if I spent 400 on DS, then DH did the same for SS.
WELL LAST YEAR AY AY AY. SS asked for a pool table, and DH refinanced his truck and spent 2700 on SS a pool table. I was having issues like you. It seems like mine was due to having to buy new tires or something. I could only afford like 150 on DS and felt like a failure of a parent. It was awful.
This year I have spent a lot on DS. I started in Sept. I do not care that DH had some issues come up and has only spent half my amount on SS. He didn't care about my predicament last year. I guess you can say, now we just do our own thing.
DOn't worry dear. Karma. She always has the last say, even if you have to wait a year like me!
ALSO SS has only played pool on the damn pool table 4 times. It has been a year. WHAT A WASTE FOR MY DH!
ETA My DS DID understand the situation and didn't complain one bit. It was soley myself who felt like a failure to watch SS get lavished with this 2700 pool table. It has been a year. To this day I have never nor will I EVER play a game of pool on it!
Also, I realize I should not have felt bad anyways because it is not about amounts, and the amount I spent was more than some kids get yes! The part that was hard for me was watching DH lavish and in my case LAVISH that amount on SS all while knowing I myself could not nor will I EVER be able to do that for my DS. It was very hard for me. I am proud of the fact that my DS did not seem bothered by it at all, and he and I have ever since secretly laughed because we knew ALL ALONG that SS would never take a screen break long enough to play with a pool table anyways.
I love this story. You raised
I love this story. You raised a good kid.
A nearly $3k pool table for a vid-addicted kid. Now that is funny.