Their nasty is known throughout the land...

The husband & I met with an insurance agent... He says, "I met with your ex mother in law to sell her insurance recently, she's different... Even when she's in a good mood, she's still not really nice, huh? & boy her mouth is like a sailor! Wow. I've never heard anything like it. I met your ex. You must be a saint! I couldn't hardly stand 5 minutes with that woman!" Every person I've ever come into contact says the exact same thing about these two women. It's crazy! Those are his clients. & some days I wonder why the kids are ill behaved? How coukd they not be right? Ugh. Dumb parent. Makes me mad. & sad.

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Understood. It is sad. It

Understood. It is sad. It sounds like these women have dumped a large burden on you. Deliberately. I have no suggestions. It sounds as though you have the situation under control. Of course, anything you can do for the kids would be great. My prayers for all of your family.

This sounds like the

This sounds like the Girhippo's clan. You know it's bad when you have to use the word "clan."

The PAS runs deeeeep in the Girhippo clan. The Gir's BM, Battleaxe Galactica, PASed the Gir out when she was a kid.

NO one moves outside the 10 mile zone of the mothership (Battleaxe Galactica).

Dominatrix (SD16) posted "family is the MOST IMPORTANT THING EVER!!" Read: my head is so far up the Girhippo's arse I can't tell where I leave off and she begins.

The Girhippo does have a job (CPS Worker) ironically but she got that job after being a stay-in-bed mom and an owner of a failed bakery/catering for about 10 months. . .