Thank you for your replies

She hasn't had an official diagnosis but I read the section 15 report that was done when she lost her 13 year old son. It said that she's very deceptive and that she displays tendencies consistent with histrionic and narcissistic personality disorder. It also mentions a concern with her ability to care for the day to day needs of all of the children involved.

He goes to pick up his kids and the girls run out to the car right away. His son either won't talk to him at all (this is what happened last night, he only whispered things in the BMs ear) or he looks sad and says that he just doesn't feel like or want to come. A few weeks ago he (the DS) had a complete breakdown - he was super excited to go but he was in dirty clothes so my bf had him change before they left. He helped him pull his shirt (a golf shirt) over his head but the buttons weren't all undone so it got caught on his DS's nose. DS started screaming about how my bf hurt him and he didn't want to go - my bf stayed for an hour trying to talk with him but the BM woudnt let them talk, she just stood beside the DS and said things like "don't worry, you'll be 10 soon and then you can choose, you'll never have to go to his house again". She took all of the kids 3 days later and filed a report with social services, which is now closed.

There isn't a separation agreement in place because they can't agree on the terms. She wants more money, he literally doesn't have it because he took on all of the debt from the marriage.

He called social services a week and a half ago about the school records and what I mentioned earlier but they said its part of the school act, not child protection, and that the other stuff is family court related. She also told him outright that from her point of view, she had to see him partially as a retaliating ex. I'm pretty sure this isn't the first time BM has accused him of something to social services. They've apparently reopened the file though because my bf's stepsons dad (who has a good relationship with my bf as well) called in and said his own bit. I've called in too, and my bf's stepson (the 13 year old) is so upset about what's happening to his brother and sisters that even he wants to call in.

I'm on my way right now to buy a tape recorder for my bf..

its legal in canada, as long is there is one person (my bf) consenting

From what I understand, I think that the section 15 can be used as a reference point but it doesn't hold too much weight because it was xase specific for the BM, her son and his dad

I guess another question I have then is if the BM is brainwashing him in such a way that he refuses to leave BM's house. My bf doesn't want to take his DS out kicking and screaming and any time my bf thinks his DS might come, DS looks at BM (they stick to each other like glue) and won't come. I knoe that once he's away from his BM he's fine and loves being at my bfs house but how can he get him there if he won't come?

Ok so he's going to pick up the kids from BM's house after work today. Here's hoping it all works out..

Thank you.. And Anita that's a great idea about contacting the rcmp, ill let my bf know. I know he called them a few days ago and asked them to help - they said they couldn't do anything to help because its a family court matter. If he just gives them a heads up though, that could make things go more smoothly..

He's there right now, she called the police and I'm waiting. He just texted me and said its bad..

I sent him with a recorder in his pocket, a court order in his hand and he called the police beforehand to let them know.

These children are always going to remember this :(.. Why can't she just see..

So when my bf went to get the kids, the girls ran out to the car right away and his son was just standing at the top of the stairs. My bf asked him to come down at first, then when he wouldn't come my bf finally told him that he needed to come, and that he would give him to the count of 5 to come or he would pick him up and bring him. The BM started freaking out, screaming "you can't do that!" and telling his son he didn't have to go. She called the police and when they got there the officer tried everything he could to convince bf's son to go with my bf. He almost did but BM wouldn't leave his side and he refused. The officer even asked him what was wrong and why he didn't want to go but his son wouldn't give an answer. He finally said it was bc my bf's house is small and my bf has a loud voice.

The officer told my bf that there was no reason his son shouldn't go with him and he wanted to help but that his hands were tied unless there was a police enforcement clause in the order. He told my bf to get down to the courthouse asap.

So now I have even more questions: I was reading about going in for an ex parte application requesting a police enforcement clause but would that even work? Does a 9 year old legally have to go to his dads if he refuses, even if there's an order? Is it better to just put together a whole case for custody and file it? What worries me on the last one is that it would take at least a week to organize what's there, then however long to be heard in court. This alienation thing is fairly new, its going to get a lot worse with time..

Thank you! I've been going back and forth with this and from what I read about it I wasn't sure if a judge would hear it because the kids aren't considered to be in "immediate danger".

Someone also told my bf that if a 9 year old doesn't want to go he doesn't have to go, end of story. I didn't think that was true..

Do you happen to know if he should write affidavit to go along with the ex parte notice of motion?

Ps... You guys are all amazing here, there's so much support for each other. Its really encouraging