First semester report is in
I really don't get this kid sometimes.
In three subjects he scored over 80%. That is a first. DW and I are happy about that.
In art class, he got 41%.
WTF?
It's. Friggin'. ART!
I thought art was fun? At least it was fun for me back in my day. I remember making face masks out of papier maché and stuff. So how hard can it be?
Overall, SS is averaging around 68%, which is an improvement from last year, not much of an improvement, but still an improvement. DW and I really don't see why SS shouldn't be scoring 80% across the board.
We're going to meet the teacher. I think our first visit will be the art teacher. I am not keen on hearing what is going on with SS in art class but I suspect he is fooling around.
The big question on our minds right now is whether to pull SS out of Karate class and hire him a tutor. If money wasn't an issue, I would keep him in both the Karate class and get him a tutor but we can't afford both.
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My personal opinion: A tutor
My personal opinion: A tutor doesn't make sense as a motivational tool. Yes, if this is a subject SS is trying hard in but just doesn't "get," a tutor is in order. If a tutor is to take the place of SS trying his best, then no. I fight this same thing with BD10. She doesn't like math and so doesn't try very hard. DH's solution was to get her a tutor. I told him no, the solution is for BD10 to try harder. She is slowly doing that, it's a struggle, but I'm not throwing money at a motivation problem.
You pretty much captured what
You pretty much captured what DW and I were debating about last night. If SS is indeed having difficulty grasping the subject, a tutor would help, but if the problem is lack of discipline (which I am positive is the source of the problem), then a tutor will be a waste of money.
Are there private schools in
Are there private schools in your area? I know in our area the private schools usually have a required amount of community service to graduate, we were able to get a high school student to tutor SD at the library once a week and just signed the students form for her service hours... might be worth looking into. Also, might be worth asking the teacher, sometimes they have free tutoring through the school/city.
No we don't have any private
No we don't have any private schools in our area. We do have plenty of tutoring facilities however, and the daycare worker that takes care of BS and BD did offer her services at one time last year (she used to be a tutor as well). So it's not like we have a lack of tutors in our area. Our delimma is will it fix the problem with SS's motivation?
I definitely understand your
I definitely understand your concern about the motivation. Has he had tutoring before? This was a worry of ours when we started SD, but what we have found out is that a lot of her problems in school had to do with focus and frustration about not "getting" it as quickly, anxiety about asking questions in front of the other students etc. Having the one on one with the tutor built her confidence and the other thing is, she doesn't learn by just being told something, so having a tutor work on her homework using puzzles, games and hands on learning made a huge difference. I would say it might be worth a try and a talk (age appropriate) with SS about what the purpose of the tutor is and that you are just trying it but if he can't get his crap together the extra curricular will have to go
Definetly food for thought!
Definetly food for thought! Thanks for sharing. If SS does acquire a skill to help him stay focus on subjects that he considers boring or too challenging, then a tutor is worth looking into.
I have realized when it comes
I have realized when it comes to kids/skids there is a fine line between spoiling/catering and helping them because they need help or are truly struggling... Problem is, a lot of the kids were spoiled before we came into the picture because of guilty parents or whatever other reason so they learn quickly how to use things to their advantage.
A tutor for art???? I
A tutor for art????
I agree^^^ until a kid is actually trying a tutor is a waste of money.
Ask he school if there is a program to help him along. My ss12 fail three classes first semester and he is now enrolled in a free program after school. He stays an hour late three days a week and they go over that weeks lesson in each class he's failing in order to help him keep up with the rest of the class.
I will definetly do that.
I will definetly do that.
And yeah...I don't think there are tutors for art. If there are, then they have definetly made art classes harder since my day!
you know what happened in
you know what happened in art. He didn't turn anything in. My sister is a high school art teacher. You can turn in total crap and get a C. If you put some effort you get a B and if you really try you get an A. Very simple! He just isn't turning his assignments in- that is the absolute only way to fail art.
I'm going to wait to see what
I'm going to wait to see what the teacher says, but I think you're on the money there.
Bet the art thing is because
Bet the art thing is because he's not doing/turning in assignments or not engaging in projects in class. Surely his teacher wouldn't grade on actual talent. So if his assignment is to paint his rendition of the Sistine Chapel and he did it in all stick figures, that should be ok if he followed directions and got the thing turned in.
Bet the issue isn't actually the art part of art class. What does SS say about it? Oh wait, let me guess, the teacher doesn't LIKE him and isn't FAIR.
>What does SS say about
>What does SS say about it?<
Deer-caught-in-the-headlights look followed with a "I dunno".
SS13 is failing Art also. He
SS13 is failing Art also. He doesn't like the class part of art, he thinks he can just do his art assignments without having to pay attention and listen to the teacher. He does not follow directions and says that it is boring. He is a decent drawer, but that doesn't make an artist. He needs to learn about composition, shading, colors, etc.
Art Class -- Turning in half
Art Class -- Turning in half completed or obviously lazy projects (Told to draw a house in art using 2 point perspective. Instead just wings it) or not turning in assignments at all. He's 11 right? That's what... 6th grade? He should still be doing fairly simple projects. So I'd put my money on incomplete or missing assignments.
Tutor -- from my experience (from tutoring my SIL13) tutors can't do anything parents can't do. Find out what the issue is that he's bringing home poor grades.
I have a daily after school
I have a daily after school tutor for SS. She comes for one hour a day $12/hr. WORTH EVERY PENNY!! She does his homework with him and saves my life in the process. Maybe if you could find something like that but 2-3 days a week you might be able to swing it? Sorry not trying to get all up in your financials!!
Found her on Care.com- there is a tutor section.
Alternative Suggestions Call
Alternative Suggestions
Call a local senior center. Some have retired teachers that will tutor for free or at a very nominal cost.
Call a local college. Some have peer tutoring programs for a nominal cost that is usually far less than a formal tutoring schools fees.
My reaction would be the kid having an immediate restriction from anything electronic until his grades across the board not only rose to an 85% but consistantly stayed there for a period of not less than 2 weeks. If it plugs in or uses any form of battery: not allowed to use it.
This works for my boys. Everytime.
If he is a smart ass like my kids I highly suggest having a wind up alarm clock on hand for when he tries saying then he can't get up for school on his own because his alarm clock is electric.
"We're going to meet the
"We're going to meet the teacher. I think our first visit will be the art teacher. I am not keen on hearing what is going on with SS in art class but I suspect he is fooling around"
Any other poster would have been flamed for over-stepping and attending a skid conference. This kid's BDad is in the picture. Maybe because Draco is a step DAD and not a step MOM? Ugh.
Point again!
Point again!
>This kid's BDad is in the
>This kid's BDad is in the picture.<
Yes and no.
Donkeykong doesn't give a rat's ass about how SS does in school. In fact, I have it on good authority that Donkeykong WANTS SS to fail. Why? Because then he will file a motion for a reverse change in custody faster than you can say "child support reduction".
Should Donkeykong succeed at this (it's a long shot but nothing is stopping him from filing a motion), DW will be utterly and completely devastated. DW already cries bucket-loads of tears every single Christmas when SS has to go to his Dad's for the entirety of the holidays. I love my wife, but I don't think I can handle my wife crying all-year-round because of that jackass. I was very up front with DW on this. I can love, cherish and support her until the Zombie Apocalypse but if I cannot make her happy, what is the point of me being her husband?
I hated art. I think it has
I hated art. I think it has something to do with my ADHD but I hated and still hate spending time and focus and energy on Art. Still, I always managed to at least keep a c or above. If you do the work, you're not getting bad grades because you suck at art. This is a case of him not turning work in.
Hmmm....SS does have ADHD. I
Hmmm....SS does have ADHD. I wonder if that plays a part in it? Well - actually - I am sure it does but it never has been a real problem until now.
Wait until after the
Wait until after the conference with art teacher before making a decision.
For someone to get a 41% in art, IMO I'd think it's a matter of the kid hates art aka finds it a stupid bother of his time. I'd think the kid shows absolutely no effort and at times either does not do assignments and/or does them so lazily 1/2ass , perhaps even turning what he does do in late (which usually drops the grade of project with each day late).
Ask the teacher to see examples of what kid has turned in and to give a brief explanation as to what the task in the assignment was. With my daughter's art class I can see online exactly what she has been assigned to do, I can see how many points it was worth and what she actually received for the project (not to mention that if project was a homework task, I can readily see how she's coming along with it). She likes art (I myself always hated art class) and she does well. It interest her and she enjoys being creative. With my youngest son, art class was a boring mandated necessity and he scrapped by with a 'C', not because he couldn't do better but because he only did enough to pass what he declared 'a waste of my time'.
If that is the case with your SS, you need to find what can and will motivate him to realize even if he hates it he has to do it and put some effort in it. A tutor can teach a kid 'how', but he/she won't be worth your time and money (for any subject) if the kid has the attitude it's a worthless subject not worth his efforts. Your SS has improved and tried harder on his other subjects now DW needs to motivate his buns on this one. Whether that key is in loss of extra activities or tv/game time or whatever works.
Personally, I'd think twice about marital arts lessons as IMO it helps the kid learn self discipline and concentration but that's my 2 cents. Surely there is something else to 'take away'.
I will definetly remember to
I will definetly remember to ask the teacher to show some examples. The more I think about it, the more I am beginning to believe that the problem stems from SS not doing the assigned class-work...Like an above poster said, the only reason for such a low grade is because he is not doing the class work AT ALL.
Did you stop to think that
Did you stop to think that maybe SS13 doesn't like art? Finds it boring or stupid? Isn't interested in it??
Or are you continuing to assume he should be exactly like you??
You are so focused on changing this kid into some sort of mini-me, that you're not giving him any opportunities to discover and explore the things that interest him and/or excite him.
Really Shaman? How exactly is
Really Shaman? How exactly is he going to have the opportunity to explore ANYTHING that interests him if SS continues to slack off in class? Can you explain to me why SS has excelled in 3 classes but still does just the bare minimum in others? Maybe if you can look past your low opinion of me for one nano-second, maybe you can explain that?
Something tells me that Draco
Something tells me that Draco didn't force SS to sign up for art. And besides that- there are times in life where you don't like something but you have to do your best anyway. How are you teaching a child to grow up and be a contributing member of society if, just because he doesn't like it, he can just not do it. School is important, even art. He has to be held accountable for his GPA in all subjects.